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Burnley – One Man Rubbish Is Another’s Treasure

Burnley visits Villa park today, and so do two former players. Matt Lowton and Ashley Westwood. Both were deemed not good enough by the Villa Faithfull. Is it a case of one man’s rubbish is another man’s treasure?. We shall see today.

Both players have performed well at Burnley. Ashley Westwood was voted their player of the season by both the fans and his teammates. https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/news/2019/may/double-top-for-westwood/ Yet at Villa he was nicknamed the crab. I always thought he had just become another scapegoat. He did his job and played it simple. Like all players, their instructions come from the Coach.

Talking of scapegoats, we do have a habit of targetting players and treating them harshly. If we’re not careful, some of the new players could become the next Ashley Westwood.

The Game

Anyway, today game is a real six-pointer, and so are our following two games. It’s got to the stage where we cannot be saying it early days, even though it still is. We need to get points on the board, and our next three games give us this opportunity. But it’s easier said than done, as we have found out thus far.

So something, as to change, or a combination of changes are needed. Personal and game management are obvious choices, but simple tactical changes might be all it needs. After all, we’re not too far away, and we could have a lot more points on the board than what we have got. But the fact we haven’t means that something is not right. We can’t merely blame match officials. We need to overcome opposition regardless.

Match Facts

Burnley have lost only one of their last eight top-flight games against Aston Villa winning 3, drawing 4.

The most recent encounter came in May 2015, when the Burnley won 1-0 on the final day of the season at Villa Park.

Aston Villa is looking to record three consecutive Premier League clean sheets at Villa Park for the first time since 2012.

Aston Villa has not conceded a first-half goal in five of their six Premier League matches this season.

Burnley have won their last five Premier League games against newly-promoted sides.

Burnley has not kept a clean sheet in any of their last 10 top-flight away games. They are winless in their last five away league matches,

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1 year ago

As a long term reader and occasional poster of Villa blogs I would like to see the comments on. We need a villa blog with a sense of humour where we’re not taking everything too seriously.
Soccer AM as opposed to Sunday Supplement. However if it’s going to end up a vehicle for people to have a go at each other I’d turn off.

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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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Did u see the DS presser, BB posting it below. He said Davis is ready to start a game but he also said that Wes has been training well this week. If I was to try and judge from the tone of the presser i would say Wes will get the nod.

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1 year ago
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I would love to see Smith make changes with 60 / 70 mins gone and try a little experimenting then but u kinda need a 2-0 or 3-0 lead to attempt that

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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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Should we be called the Australian blogs. All the criminals found guilty and sent out to form a new community so what else is to be expected but lots of in fighting ?????????

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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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Right Folks

First off the accusations of me having some hidden agenda are wide of the mark, and is water off a ducks back to me, but sadly they have really deflected away from why James got the ban.

You all know from personal experience how James can be at times i simply cannot have anyone causing disruption so i acted as i saw fit. If you ask me he’s was the one with the hidden agenda coming on here to incite and re-ignite hostilities time and time again.

Anyway considering all the accusations being thrown at me since from James about me having some hidden agenda from the beginning of stealing his posters this is what i am proposing and prepared to do.

Talk about cut your nose off to spite your face

I am prepared to close down commenting on this site – the site will remain open and i will still post my own articles but there will be no interaction.

Many sites operate without commenting being open anyway – what would James excuse be then for me starting a site ? I mean it’s a free world anyway

I don’t run advertising for revenue nor do i have an hidden agenda to get you here – it’s not just a blog it’s a villa site for villa fans showing fixtures lists,results and league tables covering every Villa team age group and all club transfers, the blog commenting area is just an extra area for fans to engage and interact if they wish to do so.

And to be honest i worked bloody hard implementing all these elements and they all have to be manually updated every result and table, it’s not done automatically by some magical API

I will happily leave comments on the site if posters want me too – removing comments will end James paranoia, it may not stop me being slagged off but It will tell you a lot about my so called hidden agenda.

It really is up to you, I can remove it in a heartbeat – but to do it off the top of my head would be unfair on you guys who have contributed so much on here, so it’s your decision leave your views not on me and James, honestly that’s gone way past reconciliation, just if you want the comment section to remain I shall check in tomorrow to see where we go.
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1 year ago
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To get straight to the point i would I prefer if u didn’t close down commenting. I think this is a good blog for discussion.

I think we all know that we can’t keep all of the people happy all of the time but there is probably some margin in between. Some of the accusations doing the rounds appear very far fetched to me. This blog and James’ blog are of small commercial value, if any, and there is no obvious reason why either of you would be trying to highjack the other. I would have thought you have better things to do in your life that would provide more reward. Also, as BB has highlighted his site doesn’t have advertisement, I know James’ site used to have ads but I was there last night and saw none, had James ditched ads too? What is the value in highjacking the other?

The discourse between James & BB is obviously not going to change in the near future. I went onto James’ site yesterday for a few reasons, one to set things straight re my bannings, two to understand what was ‘nonsense’ about a comment I posted on here yesterday and three as a result of a comment from JCV which was asking what can be done to get peace between blogs. It was and still is quite clear from James’ posts that he has no interest in having any dialogue and tbh I am not sure BB has either. Some of the claims seem ridiculous and as there is no evidence to substantiate these claims maybe it is time to drop them.

There are some valid points from each side and maybe these can be addressed. James claims that BB doesn’t post on his blog, which is generally the case and BB claims that James creates a shit storm on his blog. I did raise the question with James last night but didn’t get an answer but the tone of his very post to me on here yesterday wasn’t exactly looking for healthy debate on Villa so maybe both of you have a valid point here.

From my perspective the reason I want to post on a blog is to debate about Aston Villa. I want to be able to engage in a debate with free speech, I want to be treated the same as everyone else on the blog and I want consistency from the moderator. I also want to be able to have a debate and stick to the subject matter of the debate and discuss the points raised in a coherent manner.

Maybe the best way forward for both blogs is to simply ignore the other blog and do your own thing and let people can elect to post on the blog of their choice. Currently there is a lot of defamation and slander posted and this is not helpful and just drives people away.

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1 year ago
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So Norwich at the weekend. Who fancies 3 points? My prediction is that we will score 2 goals. I hope we concede fewer than that and would love a clean sheet but I would be extremely happy with 3 points which would get us back on track of a point per game

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1 year ago
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Expecting at least a point tomorrow, hopefully 3.
A defeat even at this stage of the season could be very damaging.
Flying home tomorrow afternoon and will miss the game, hoping when i land i will find out we have bagged 3 points.

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1 year ago
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Enjoy the last night of your hols. And yes, at least a point tomorrow ?

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1 year ago
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Thanks mate, just enjoying a few beers on the last night before getting back to reality.
A win tomorrow would certainly be welcome.

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1 year ago
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Haha, yeh, phoned my daughter and she told me it wasnt great weather, had to mention to her it was about 80 degrees over here. ???

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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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What do you mean, you dont know anymore, you never fcuking knew in the first place. ???

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1 year ago
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Ok fair enough but by the law of averages you had to be correct at some point ???,
By the way just replied to your comment on the other site.

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??

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1 year ago
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I will email you at some point today

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1 year ago
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No its not , you should have asked me first. ?????

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????????

Muz1
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1 year ago
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So its match day and everyone has gone awol.
Any team news anyone?

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1 year ago
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new post

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1 year ago
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Jcv

I am not sure what post I are referring to, just logged into blogs now. I have no issue with the posts. I agree with the move on post. But Christ, I recounted a story to James today and he said he doesn’t believe me. I wouldn’t mind if I say something like I remember or I recall or something like that but I went into a little detail of the sequence of events. James is telling me that he doesn’t believe me which is effectively telling me I am a liar and he understands my bias. I don’t believe any poster would accept that from James or anyone else and James would certainly not accept it.

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1 year ago
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You ever watched Anchorman when the various regional news meet up and ‘sort it out’.

Maybe the various Villa blogs could do the same?

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1 year ago
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Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino insists he will not walk away from the club and hopes to remain in north London for at least five more years.

So Levy won’t sack Poch because he wants the compo if another club comes in for him and Poch won’t walk as he wants compo if he is sacked ????

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I am aware that I am not currently banned but I have been banned twice in the relatively recent past. Not sure I remember the exact dates but both time have been in that last few months. I am not sure the exact reasons for my banning but they are related to me disrespecting James as opposed to anything nasty like racism etc.
After the first ban I spoke with James via email and it was all cordial and I started posted again however I was quickly banned again. If I recall correctly, for the second ban the straw that broke the camel’s back was me posting a comment to James which said something like “are you stupid?”. I have seen far worse on James blog from many people and also far worse comments from James himself to other posters, yet he elected to ban me for this. I find this very hypocritical and it makes it sort of pointless for me to post on his blog now as I am not in a position where I can argue my point of view.
Bear in mind it is a football blog, In my opinion there is nothing wrong with a little ribbing of people, there is nothing wrong with highlighting when someone is wrong, there is nothing wrong with highlighting you are right, there is nothing wrong with some bad language and there is nothing wrong with standing your ground.
If I enter a debate with James and as past experiences have proven he will just ban me when I stand my ground then what is the point in even posting in the first place? It would be different if James did not say worse to fellow posters but he can dish it out whenever he feels like it and he does so very regularly. it is just inconsistent when it is dished out in his direction and he doesn’t like that and uses his privilege to ban me.

Begley
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1 year ago
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He is fit to play against Norwich on Saturday, so too is Lansbury. Only person not fit is Kodjia

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Sorry folks it rather long

Honestly i have never known such commotion over someone getting a ban, so I am going to say this and then i will not be making another comment on it. and then i will get back to talking about football and Villa because it clearly does not deserve the attention it’s got.

In response to
so you unban expat ages ago – and still refuse to come on my blog and comment, true motives exposed

Not at all, you do jump the gun.

For the record when I had to completely re-install my site around the end of May June when my site had issues, all previous setting was lost so in essence expats ban was removed – and because I never had a record of his IP I could hardly re-integrate or enforce it through back-end of WordPress, or via Disqus because he had not made a comment on the new installment, so it was left like that, and as far as the ban not being in place Expat was none the wiser.

Fast forward
So I am still not commenting on your site for reasons previously given about me an expat – you had told me just to use the block button – that’s all well and good, but it doesn’t stop the person you block saying whatever they want about you – it just means you don’t see it, but everyone else does

Yet you still expected me to comment & contribute while another poster is given free rein to say what he likes about me and my site. It’s Not happening.
Unlike you, I chose not to comment and cause chaos on your site by turning it into a battleground with Expat. Maybe I should have, then you would know what it’s like to have your blog destroyed and become unattractive to readers.

On your site, you don’t have a comment policy- you make out like it a free hit, posters can say what they like, but you did ban Begley twice and avfc80 when it suited you, so tell me what rules did they break ?– it seems to me while you try to pick fault with my comment policy and say I am no better off than NKB banning and choosing who I ban – you have done precisely the same – so NO posters do not have free speech as you proclaim on your site so stop the hypocrisy.

You ripped up your own rule book up – previously you had one strike warningtwo strikes 2nd warning 3 strikes temporary ban and repeat permanent ban so don’t take the moral high ground with me.

Fast forward
As a last resort other than banning you a few weeks back James i posted this because i had received an email earlier from you that very morning apologizing for breaking my comment policy the day previous

A few hours later James you were back on my site doing exactly the same thing.

So I posted this to you.

I don’t respond well to empty rhetoric, obviously what you said to me 5 hours earlier was nothing more than hollow promises.

Because in your very first comment you spoke with rancour, and in my opinion tried to incite and re-ignite hostilities.

It shows a lack of respect towards me, and my blog and how I want users to interact, which is respecting each others views even when we don’t agree with them.

It’s simple, debate not berate, and If you can’t do that, then stay away.

I never heard back from you either via email or via comments.

Until a few weeks later via email and nothing was mentioned about what had occurred it was water under the bridge and we exchanged a few emails about Brexit.
Then you came back on my site a few days later and made some comments about whatever the discussion was about at the time, and until yesterday you had again stayed away for reasons only you know probably workload?

Fast Forward
In between all of this, the expat ban on my site was lifted for reason I stated early

The past is the past. Aston Villa as to rebuild and so must this site if it’s to survive. So this site then became open to everyone again, past bans had been lifted. This isn’t to say that we don’t have rules, because we do, but I would like to think that bygones can be bygones, time served, and we all move on.

Me contributing to your site since
I guess whatever I write here will be just seen as excuses, but lets look at the facts – i’m sure you will agree it’s demanding running a site, and obviously, I have to put my site as a priority, then I look at your website, and you’re not even about half the time.

Even Jcv & Expat have both commented on this aspect previously. You say with work and moving house it been difficult lately to find the time, but this has been the case for months. Yet you find time to come on mine.
Why are you not doing more to entice posters and make it an attractive site, put up regular threads. Put your valuable free time into your own site and make it work, instead of making out like your doing me favors because mostly you only visited here when it was quiet on your site anyway – yesterday was prime example of that, your first post on your own site was the first comment by anyone in three days and that came only after your ban here and your decision to vent your frustration.

For me things have moved on since I started this blog, the Avfcvillablog is not my only site, and I work long hours doing web development and building sites in the background. So when you say that since I have lifted the ban on Expat, I have still not commented on your website it’s also because of workload surely you understand that I have priorities also as well as home life.

James, it’s easy to say things out of context to make them look the way you want them too appear to others and lay blame elsewhere. But the harsh reality is you messed up and brought about the ban all by your self. Had you not reacted the way you did or have in the emails since there might have been a chance of reconciliation but you showed your true colours.

You can continue to rant and rave about the situation all you want. I have better things to do, so this is my only response to it and all future emails from you will go directly in my junk folder where they belong.

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1 year ago
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Its just past the “sweater solstice” here and FM my kness, back and shoulder are aching just watching that !

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1 year ago
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Yes I hope the defence can tighten up, it will really help towards 3 points at the weekend. I think we have enough in us to score against Norwich, it is just do we have enough to keep a clean sheet. It surprises me a little as I think our back 5 has the best quality we have had for years

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1 year ago

JCV, are u aware that Expat is not banned from this blog?

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1 year ago
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I don’t believe so. I think BB is trying to have the blog as open as possible. But I don’t think Expat fancies posting on here. He doesn’t exactly see eye to eye with BB

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1 year ago
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never saw that word before ‘cuntiness’. I like that LOL

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Be careful I will be accused of doing it over night to steal him

For the record sometime back and without going public i removed previous bans my reason was this

The past is the past. Aston Villa as to rebuild and so must this site if it’s to survive. So this site then became open to everyone again, past bans had been lifted. not counting the one i chose to make yesterday This isn’t to say that we don’t have rules, because we do, but I would like to think that bygones can be bygones, time served, and we all move on.

Then out of the blue 13 days ago Expat posted a comment and i replied in a civil manor to it.
He’s not been back since which is his prerogative.
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1 year ago
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Between all of the blogs I think there is a very fine line between people posting everywhere and people boycotting / been banned from blogs. We all have 2 things in common. First is Aston Villa and second is we want to discuss Villa on a blog. It does seem quite crazy and like a school playground that we cannot all get on togeter

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1 year ago
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I find the overall banning and comments quite interesting. It shows a lot about how people react when they are not face to face and it is very different. I have read a lot about remote working and having virtual meetings as opposed to face to face meetings and this particular issue is of huge importance. It does beg the question why do people act differently when they are not face to face?

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1 year ago
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To make up for the ability to chin someone on the face it would be quite cool if you could send an electric shock to the other users keyboard ???

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1 year ago

At last someones silenced you ??? well done begley mate, all is forgiven. ??

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1 year ago

Well he still rates Bruce ???

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1 year ago
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that was yesterday today he don’t ??

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1 year ago
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Forgot he changes his mind on a daily basis. ??

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??????????

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1 year ago
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I didnt think it was but no doubt begley will disagree. ???

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1 year ago
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From my perspective I do not have a problem with peace. We all have differing opinions and it is good to debate them. I think the debate on Wes and if he is good enough is a good debate and it is something that has Villa supporters split. The hard bit is that when we have the discussion rather than debating the subject we just get told we are wrong and our facts are wrong and then the personal abuse starts. How do we move forward from that. If u read the posts from yesterday I think it is very clear that I was trying to stick to the actual debate

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1 year ago
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I disagree now but give me 5 minutes and I will agree. ???

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1 year ago
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Both ??????

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??????

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1 year ago

Its all begleys fault. If he just agreed that he is always wrong and agreed with everyone that he is just talking shite and didnt disagree with anyone all would be well in this world.?????????

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1 year ago
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Ordering a escort in was not what my Mrs meant when she said i needed a hot Totty ??

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1 year ago
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And that is not a Ford Escort

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1 year ago
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???? If it was it would have Alloys not those cheap hub caps

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1 year ago
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Always safer when we have a game against Liverpool to have alloys

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1 year ago
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Great minds and fools seldom differ??????

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1 year ago
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????

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1 year ago

Mine is still down but expected to be back by weekend although they did say firesticks should be working.

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1 year ago

You was right again – sky are showing the two big clashes in Caraboa cup of Liverpool v Arsenal & Chelsea v Man U

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1 year ago
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That’s a bummer. while watching the draw I had initially thought Wolves game was a banker for the TV but unfortunately TV ad revenue dictates

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1 year ago
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As an aside I think it was a bit cynical not throwing Liverpool out of the Carabao Cup for fielding an ineligible player. i would say the Exec meeting went something like this..”There is no way we are fcuking Liverpool out of the Cup with the cash we can make out of Liverpool v Arsenal”

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1 year ago
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Was not aware of this must google

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1 year ago
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thanks

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1 year ago
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Winners prize for Carabao is 100k, Liverpool fine 100k LOL

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1 year ago
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It’s good to have friends in high places

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1 year ago
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I really think it is so cynical and all about the money. Millwall should rightly be fuming.

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1 year ago
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I will make you all happy and predict that Norwich will get all 3 points on Saturday. On the basis I am always wrong…

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1 year ago
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Even you have to get something right once so please stop tempting fate

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1 year ago
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??? i hope you are not trying to start an argument, there is just no debating with you. ???

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1 year ago
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You’re just wrong again. Although i said Norwich will win that is at a point in time where we are not playing well. Our players may be Duds and a waste of money but we could turn up on Saturday which is a different point in time and win the game with a great performance which is what I have said all along. Stop trying to twist my words and saying things to suit your narrative. It is getting really boring discussing this with you ???

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1 year ago
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How can i be wrong, ive already said we could win, lose , or draw saturday, ffs stick with the facts instead of trying to prove right what is wrong. I will say no more on this subject until you agree i am right as usual. ??

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1 year ago
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Typical, you are just making the stats suit your narrative. Conveniently you only give 3 outcomes, a win, a loss or a draw. And if there is a problem at Carrow Road which means the game has to be called off what happens then? What happens if either side field ineligible players? Each of these could impact the outcome of the game but of course you fail to mention them

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1 year ago
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With it being a Midlands Derby i expected it to be televised but it’s all about the money

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1 year ago
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Hiya,

Good that IPTV is back and that u are over man flu. I keep explaining to my wife that man flu is worse than child birth but she just doesn’t seem to get it.

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1 year ago
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lucky bugger ?mine was on off then died, but firesticks and kodi should be ok at present

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1 year ago
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Well that sorts out the Kodjia debate, he will be watching from the stands.

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1 year ago
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Sure does, I obviously jumped the gun, but in fairness i was only going by his previous comments about Kodjia being back and in contention.

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1 year ago
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Just accept it, you were wrong as usual ?

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1 year ago
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I’m not allowed to agree with you?

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1 year ago
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LOL ??

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1 year ago
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I thought the Intl break was between the Brighton and City games, it is between Norwich and Brighton. These intl breaks are a real pain in the arse. There are way too many of them

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1 year ago
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I believe it’s the last one this year, they are useful if your club as injuries to key players, because of CL football now days there is no chance of the good old day returning, where internationals were played on Wednesday sandwiched in-between league games, what was the programme? sports night Harry Carpenter

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1 year ago
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I think you are thinking back to the days when the Champions league was a competition between the Champions of each league. It is now the runners up league and I believe is very rarely won by a club that has actually won the league in the previous year in their home country

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1 year ago
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Exactly only champions of their league played in it – less fixture congestion

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1 year ago

Ireland 14-0 up after 14 mins. A point a minute, will this finish 80-0 ?

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Perhaps something you can answer, whats Ireland highest ever score

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1 year ago
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I am not sure what our highest score is, I assume we have broken the 100 mark as there are a lot of very weak team in world rugby. Uruguay are part time players, not full professionals and they are ranked 18th in the work. There are only about a dozen strong rugby nations in the world so. FFS Ireland is ranked number 1 in the world which shows how crazy the world ranking in Rugby is.

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1 year ago
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On Ireland i could only find 64 being their highest score back in 2003
Then i came across this the highest scoring game was the all blacks v Japan 145-17 1995.

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1 year ago
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We are now 21-0 up after 36 mins 🙂

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1 year ago
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The All Blacks played Tonga before the world cup started. With 20 mins to go the All Blacks were leading 85-0 and they substituted a player off the pitch and elected not to replace him so they played the last 20 mins of an 80 min game with a man less. They went on to win the game 92-7 ??

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1 year ago
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Villa given the green light for demolition by Birmingham city council
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-park-edens-owners-17024067

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1 year ago
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So many positive things happening at Villa since NSWE acquired the club. We just all want to see some more positive results reflected on the pitch

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1 year ago
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We couldn’t have wished for better owners, and were very lucky they chose us, I like the fact they have long term vision, they want to put the foundations in place which will hopefully bring sustained success further down the road, as opposed to a quick fix now just to win a few hearts and minds.

They could not have been any clearer in their interview about what they want to achieve and the time frame to deliver it.

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1 year ago
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Obviously PL status is very important and has significant implications to our development and investment capabilities and we are all desperate to remain in the PL for next season. But I also think it is not Armageddon if we go down this season. This will be built into our planning and although a setback it is a process many clubs go through prior to establishing themselves in the PL

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1 year ago
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If they wanted a safe investment then they could have hired someone of Big Sam ilk, but with that sort of appointment nothing would be developed.

They could have, and are rich enough to flood Villa park with the finished article type players but that would just be repeating past mistakes.

Which in my opinion is why they chose Smith,a development coach, everything CP has said about what the owners want to achieve long term points to this type of set up.

For fans it will be a frustrating time because of all the inconsistencies that come via this route.

Regardless where we sit in the table after 7 games what’s being developed up at St James?
Some clubs pay for one 1 player what we did to bring 12 in, that’s how much ground we have to make up, and it can’t happen overnight, only the table at the end of the season matters not the one after 7 games.

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1 year ago
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If they wanted a safe investment they would not have bought a football club struggling in the Championship ??????

Although NSWE can afford to buy the finished article we are constrained with FFP as to how much we can spend. It is an interesting debate whether we should have bought four 30m players or twelve 10m players. We elected for the latter. That was the strategy and although some may disagree with it that is what we did. I would suspect that as we move forward through different transfer windows we will decrease the number of new players coming in and increase the average price paid.

It is all too easy to complain about the amount of money that we spent on fringe players but if we have serious injury then we would be fcuked without strength in depth. Just look at us last season when Axel, Chester and Jack were out of action

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1 year ago
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I agree the longer we are in the PL the more they can flex their financial muscle, For us to win promotion and then sign experienced players on big wages on 4/5 year deals would have just been repeating past mistakes, and leaving us with unsustainable liabilities if we were to get relegated, any player over 27 rarely increases in value.
Steady as she goes sort of strategy at present – between the DOF DS CP they have decided the current crop will be good enough to retain our PL status this season.
Then next season we have a bunch of young players who will have increased in value and we can add to them with one or two higher value targets.

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1 year ago
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The bookies don’t fancy a draw at the weekend. Norwich are favourites at 13/10, then Villa at 15/8 and the draw is 11/4.

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1 year ago
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Maybe Smith can come up with his own rendition of the Haka for Villa to intimidate the opposition ?

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1 year ago

I see Norwich v Villa is another Super Six this weekend. Pundits finding it very tough to call our results this season. 3 points on Sat would be very big for us. We would leap from Norwich so a real 6 pointer, most likely take us out of the bottom 3 and give us a nice boost in confidence for the home game against Brighton.

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1 year ago
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I expect that there is a big focus on our defending in training. We have to really tighten that up and then the rest will hopefully fall into place

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1 year ago
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With Kodjia back in contention Smith as a dilemma with who he puts on the bench, all season it’s been 2 def, 2 mids, 2 forwards and GK, surely he can’t drop Davis, so what will he do to accommodate Kodjia?

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1 year ago
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Kodjia can play on the wing so maybe keep Davis on the bench and sacrifice Trez or Jota for Kodjia

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1 year ago
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Of course, it’s likely to be Jota who loses his place then

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1 year ago
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I was going to suggest that but Jota does add that something that Trez doesn’t and he could be the man to unlock the Norwich defence. Either way it is a tough call. Re Jota I can’t help but think back to pre season where he was brilliant and linked up with Guilbert like they were playing with each other for years. I am hoping to see some of that in the PL. Unfortunately their good link up play may have just been as a result of weak opposition

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1 year ago
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I think the pace between pre season games and at Pl level is quite different and that is why Jota’s lack of pace was not highlighted then, but i agree the link up play with Guilbert was looking good, yes he’s technically gifted, but Trez for me offers more going forward he can beat a man and as a turn of pace, and with him assisting for McGinns goal last week i don’t see him being dropped.

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1 year ago
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Short and sweet. I think the game will be won or lost with our defensive display. I think we are good enough to get a goal or two it is just a matter of whether we can keep the ball out of our own net.

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1 year ago
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Rugby back to normal. Ireland 7-0 up after 5 mins against Russia

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1 year ago
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It’s certainly a game that could go either way, and probably why it’s on super 6, the last time we played them at Carrow road we threw a 1-0 lead away and should have made it 2 by HT – they came out 2nd half and took control but then again it was under Bruce’s leadership.

Presser is about 1pm. my guess is above video was just a teaser

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1 year ago
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As per above neither Mings nor McGinn played against Norwich. They are two quality players to add to the mix. I really want Engels and Mings to have good games and our FBs to support them well. I favour seeing Guilbert and Targett start and we really need them to be on their defensive best

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1 year ago
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Both Cb’s need a to put in a top performance or they could lose their place
Not only McGinn and Mings have not faced Norwich, their is at least 6 players i would say, the new back 5 McGinn Nakamba Trez & Wes

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1 year ago

Cardiff are to appeal to Court of Arbitration for Sport over FIFA’s decision on Sala. I understand that there is a lot of money involved but it must be very hard for his family to have this dragging through the courts and media. Also, Sala’s estate is still awaiting his signing on bonus from Cardiff and there is also risk that Cardiff could claim against Sala’s estate too.

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1 year ago
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To be honest I don’t blame Cardiff, They must feel they have a strong case to pursue ,i have not really kept up with this, and have only seen snippets through whats been reported, i suspect Cardiff would have preferred this to stay out the public domain, where as i it probably suits Nantes.

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1 year ago
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Afternoon
Just saw the Lee Camp Howler ???

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1 year ago
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I understand where Cardiff are coming from. It is difficult for all parties. Just a completely sad scenario

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1 year ago
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As you say it’s very sad for Family indeed to be experiencing this and it’s them i feel for.

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1 year ago
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It wasn’t all signed and sealed though. It was submitted by Nantes 2 hours before the flight departed but it hadn’t been acted on. It was only received.

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1 year ago
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Nantes signed the paperwork and submitted it. The paperwork was sitting in an ‘in tray’ awaiting formal approval. This had not been done as the paper work was submitted after 5pm on the evening of the plane crash. This is Cardiff’s argument

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1 year ago
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I agree and that is why they lost their case I expect. But for 18m+ sign on bonuses, agent fees and FFP implications I can understand Cardiff pursuing a legal technicality

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1 year ago

Gnabry was great to watch as was Lewenoski tonight, Spurs falling apart with all wanting away by looks of it. Can see Poch going to Real and taking Kane with him.
Difficult to believe, new stadium, decent team, good coach, got to be some poor management going on there somewhere.

Sorry i missed you guys today, work stuff, another time.

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1 year ago

Late on Parade after finishing some work just found this so thought i would share
Dean Smith Reflects on season so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5kAKl5Tcw

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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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Jones following Stoke’s latest loss

“The league table doesn’t lie after 10 games, we just haven’t been good enough. It’s a wonderful club and the fans and owners have given me lots of patience, but we’ve lost our way and something has to change.

“I’ve had nine months to turn things around and, for one reason or another, I’ve not done it. It’s been tough on me and my family, but I just feel sad. It’s a great club but it just hasn’t worked out.

“I couldn’t have given it any more, I’ve given it everything I can.”

You expect the next line to be his resignation. Obviously he must need the payoff when he is sacked, it highlights the difference in money between different clubs and leagues as I expect he probably genuinely needs the payoff as opposed to the normal cashing in some managers do

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1 year ago
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I do agree with the point that it would be much more worrying if we were not taking the lead or creating chances. It is this aspect of our game that makes me feel we are close. Hopefully we just need a few tweaks and maybe a little slice of luck to kick start.

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1 year ago

I suspect there is a fair old chance that Poch may take Eriksen with him too. I also think there is a chance that Poch may end up at Old Trafford. I think he is exactly the type of manager that Utd need

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1 year ago

Huddersfield with a late goal to go 1-0 up on Stoke. Time for Stoke to get a new manager. They are already 6 points away from getting out of relegation. Time to act!!!!!

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1 year ago
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Sounds like i missed a really good 2nd half – i couldnt miss my program @9.00 so something had to give

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1 year ago
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Gnabry got 4

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1 year ago
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Stoke 10 games and only 2 points. How is that man still in a job. They were in the PL a couple of years ago

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1 year ago
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His he related to TS??

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Didn’t he play for Arsenal?

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1 year ago
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He did. But he went on loan to Baggies for a year and couldn’t get a game. He wasn’t good enough to get in the team. LOL

Serge Gnabry responds with two words when asked what went wrong at West Bromwich Albion.

Then at Arsenal, Gnabry joined the Baggies on loan in the summer of 2015 but played just 12 minutes of Premier League football for them.

Gnabry also started two League Cup games against Port Vale and Norwich City and was substituted in both of those.

Now starring for Bayern Munich and ready to take on Tottenham Hotspur in the Champions League, why did it not work out at the Hawthorns? And those two words?

“Tony Pulis,” Gnabry said in a revealing interview with the Mail on Sunday. “Ask Tony Pulis.

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1 year ago
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????? Tony Pulis

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1 year ago
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The man Stoke are lining up for a return as manager ???

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1 year ago
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Merse’s view on Chelsea

In two or three years’ time, this Chelsea team will be dictating the Premier League, mark my words. All of their young players would have played 100-odd games together by then and, if they continue in the same vein, their countries too

Merse, who knows a little about football having played at the highest level reckons that after 2 or 3 years and about 100 PL games playing together that the Chelsea players will be dictating the PL. Merse needs to read some Villa blogs. After 7 games our players are are already been written off, we are not good enough and nor is our manager

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Merson talks some right bollox at times

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1 year ago
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That he does. I tend to look for somewhere in the middle of the extreme right bollox at both ends of the spectrum

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1 year ago
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Yep, don’t listen to Merson, surprised he knows what day it us.

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1 year ago
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I am not sure what you are suggesting I am twisting. Lots of comments out there on blogs and social media about our players not being good enough and the manager not being good enough. This is after 7 games in the PL. I am comparing this to Merse saying the Chelsea players will click after 100 games. Yes, Merse can talk some shyte and as per my comment below, I like to look somewhere in between taking 100 games and casting judgement after 7 games. Luiz has played 2 games (I think), he is 21 years old and I have seen people saying he is not a DM. Wes is being written off as a waste of 22m and he has 2 goals and that is with very little service. I thought the point I am making is fairly straightforward to see, and that is I am saying it is simply too early to write off our players or our manager, they need time to get their feet under the table in the PL to show us what they can do.

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1 year ago
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2 goals in 7 games is not a bad return. That’s 11 goals over the season and the likelihood is that a new striker will improve over time as he gets used to the team or crash and burn and be a waste of money. Also, from watching the games I believe that Wes has got minimal service so I don’t understand how you or others can so quickly say he is a dud.

Wes getting good service and us playing well are not mutually exclusive so not contradictory.

As you have just said in your comment “cus that feeling is everywhere”, shows that people are saying these things across the blogs and on social media which is exactly the point I am making. In my opinion it is too early to make this judgement.

I don’t think I have ever seen someone post the words “you are wrong” so much on the blogs as yourself. These are discussion forums where people discuss opinions and facts. Facts can be proven right or wrong, opinions are subjective and cannot be proven right or wrong. This is generally what stimulates debate as people with differing opinions discuss / debate / argue their perspective opinions.

For instance, you are not too impressed with any of the new players that have joined Villa this summer. I disagree with this opinion. I think Marvelous, Targett, Heaton, Guilbert, Engels and looking quite good and I am impressed with them. I believe they have been astute buys by Villa. I do not understand what you are expecting from transfers if you are not impressed by at least some of these players. We are not buying the finished article, we are buying players that we can improve and nor have we spend silly money on them, three of them were about 10m / 12m and the other two about 5m / 8m. That’s not exactly breaking the bank for a player to join a PL team

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1 year ago
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Top Goal scorers chart 2018/19 premier league

what you expecting Wes to get James seen has he’s new to League and team?

Mohamed Salah Liverpool 22
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Arsenal 22
Sadio Mane Liverpool 22
Sergio Aguero Manchester City 21
Jamie Vardy Leicester City 18
Harry Kane Tottenham 17
Raheem Sterling Manchester City 17
Eden Hazard Chelsea 16
Callum Wilson Bournemouth 14
Richarlison Everton 13
Raul Jimenez Wolves 13
Alexandre Lacazette Arsenal 13
Paul Pogba Manchester United 13
Gylfi Sigurdsson Everton 13
Glenn Murray Brighton 13
Roberto Firmino Liverpool 12
Romelu Lukaku Manchester United 12
Luka Milivojevic Crystal Palace 12
Heung-Min Son Tottenham 12
Ayoze Perez Newcastle 12
Ashley Barnes Burnley 12
Joshua King Bournemouth 12
Aleksandar Mitrovic Fulham 11
Salomon Rondon Newcastle 11
Anthony Martial Manchester United 10
Marcus Rashford Manchester United 10
Lucas Moura Tottenham 10
Leroy Sane Manchester City 10
Chris Wood Burnley 10
Wilfried Zaha Crystal Palace 10
Marko Arnautovic West Ham 10
Gerard Deulofeu Watford 10

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1 year ago
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Is that Rondon that Rafa managed at Toon and wanted to make is loan deal permanent and couldn’t. The same Rondon that Rafa then bought when he took over management of a new club? So Rafa rates him. What point are you making with Rondon? Are u saying he is another dud? Perez got 12 goals, Leicester paid 30m for him. Leicester are 3rd in the League. BR thought Perez was worth 30m and BR has scored more PL points that any other manager outside Pep and Klopp since he took over at Leicester.

So how many goals do u think Wes should score?

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1 year ago
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you never answered what you expected Wes to score this season price tag is irrelevant because it based on age, and anyone below 27 will increase in value

yes Rondon got 11 but he was 29 and a lot more experienced
Marcus Rashford 10 who’s 21 and at a massive club is more of a even keel in regards development

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1 year ago
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how can you expect a 21 year old new to PL in a new team score as many as Eden Hazzard

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1 year ago
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HAzard with 1 year left on his contract and 28 years old went for over 100m. Are u seriously comparing Hazard with Wes in terms of value or ability. Hazard is one of the best players in the world in his position.

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1 year ago
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ok but how come Lukaku and Rashford never hit your 15 or Alexandre Lacazette

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1 year ago
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Yes he might not get it but his current goal to game ratio has him on target to get it. This is way I do not believe he is a dud and I why I disagree with people that do think he is a dud

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1 year ago
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As you have said many times it is the stats that count and particularly so for a striker. Wes’ stats have him on target for 10 / 11 goals. That is good enough for me for a 22 year old in his first season in the PL and stepping up from a lower league.

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1 year ago
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Penalties are still goals but either way neither of Wes’ goals were penalties. ?????

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1 year ago
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Not a valid point whatsoever, Wes’ current stats are based on goals scored and not pens and his return is 10 / 11 goals. Add some pens to that and it could be more.

How many pens did Salah, Kane, Aubameyang, Vardy and Hazard score? Do we take those from their tally and then should 15/16 goals be closer to the mark for golden boot?

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1 year ago
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oh James please – if Wes ran into the box 10 times and got fouled in process and got awarded pens and scored how does it not look good a goal is a goal

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1 year ago
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And so far all of Wes’ goals are from open play

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1 year ago
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They don’t count as he was inside the box, it just means he can convert from inside the box???

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1 year ago
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?????

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1 year ago
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I showed you a goal scoring chart for last season in PL because you said 10 would be a bad and you base this on his price tag nothing else

Yet he scored 10 last season and 7 the season before in the Belgium league but you think if he don’t get 13 or more in the Premier league he’s had a poor season

He’s in there to help with goals – everyone knows he’s not a typical No9 and his adjusting to playing that role so why you may think he’s a dud i will reserve judgment because everything is not black n white

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1 year ago
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It’s not about being right or wrong it about not jumping the gun

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1 year ago
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Judgement is based on the stats of his current goal return rate. 2 in 7 equates to between 10 & 11 in 38. No opinion, just the basic facts

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1 year ago
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As per BB’s comment re its not about right or wrong, it is equally not about stupidity.
We have a difference of opinion. You think Wes is a Dud and a waste of money, I do not. I am explaining my reasoning, objectively based on goals scored and how many goals need to be scored to stay in the PL and comparing this to other teams and goal scorers from previous seasons. Subjectively I think Wes is not getting the service but I like a lot of aspects of his play.

It is difficult to understand your argument for him being a Dud and u are just ignoring the stats presented to you

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1 year ago
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apart from his first season benteke never got more than 13 a season he got 19 – 13 and 10

Juan Pablo Ángel
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1 year ago
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For some perspective:

Last season Brighton survived in the PL with a total of 34 goals scored. 11 goals from one player would be > 29% of total goals. I would take that

Wolves finished 7th and in Europa with a total of 47 goals scored. 11 goals from one player would be >23%

Toon finished 13th with 42 goals scored. Perez, top scorer with 12 of these which is >28% of their total goals.

Cardiff who finished 18th and were relegated scored 34 goals with Camarsa and Reid joint top with 5 goals each which accounts for >14% of total goals

11 goals from a single player for Villa would be a very good return and would go a long way to keeping us up

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1 year ago
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Where have I added a goal?

Spending 124m (not 133m) according to CP is irrelevant. We are specifically talking about Wes. Given how strikers perform for other clubs and how many goals are required to stay in the PL statistics suggest that 11 goals is a good return for a single player. This is not an opinion but rather a fact as it would be over 25% of total goals scored required to retain PL status.

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1 year ago
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I actually used 4. Leicester at the top end (3rd). Toon somewhere in the middle (13th) and applicable as they are on level points to us today and I also used the two teams each side of the relegation threshold (17th & 18th). TBH, I think that is quite an applicable sample to use and yes regardless of what you or anyone else cares to say the data I supplied are all facts.

If you want to do the % analysis for other teams I am sure you can find the data quite easily

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1 year ago
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What is not factual about my argument? Please enlighten me.

Begley VillaRealist • an hour ago • edited
2 goals in 7 games is not a bad return. That’s 11 goals over the season

Posted an hour ago in reply to you and my first comment on the goal return for Wes. Can u have a read of that again and tell me how many goals I said?

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1 year ago
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I ddin’t round the decimal to suit, I rounded it to 2 decimal places which is what I normally round numbers to. But you are just trying to argue a technicality and try and find a whole in my argument. What not try debating the actual subject we are discussing instead?

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1 year ago
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Okay, you want to stay arguing a technicality rather than the substance of the debate.

2 goals in 7 games equates to 10.85 goal over 38 games. I rounded 10.85 to 11 for ease of writing and reading the posts. What is incorrect about what I have said and how would you handled that any differently?

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1 year ago
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James,

My facts are correct. 10.85 is rounded to 11, if you cannot understand the principle of why I rounded to 11 then that is something you can work on yourself in your own time. In working out how many goals Wes will score on a pro rate basis rounding and averages are used. Wes scores 0.28 goals per game, but as you say that is not possible so mathematical techniques are used. The same as a team can only get 0, 1 or 3 points from a game yet we read that Team A is getting for example 1.8 points per game.

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James,

Its okay if you don’t understand how rounding works or the principles behind it. Like most things in life these can be learned. It just appears silly when you argue something that you clearly do not understand. Maybe read up on a few things before engaging in a technical debate but I suppose it is an easier argument that saying Wes should be getting 15+ goals after you saw how many players actually achieved this last season

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1 year ago
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As I explained to you this is using maths principles. We do not know how many goals Wes will score. We use pro rata techniques to determine how many goals per game and then determine the amount of goals per season. Then rounding techniques are used to give a simple whole number. It is not complicated but it very widely used. It is well known that working with statistical techniques that you cannot have a half a person or a half a goal but this is understood when using these techniques.
Don’t worry about it if you don’t understand it and we can just talk about Wes competing for the golden boot this season

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1 year ago
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James,

For the sake of the blog and encouraging interesting debate would you please consider sticking to the substance of the debate rather than trying to focus on something which is completely irrelevant and simply arguing in an attempt to get one up on me.

The substance of the debate below is whether Wes is a Dud or not. You think he is and I don’t. You are not the only person that shares your view and nor am I the only person that shares my view.

In the debate I showed stats of how many goals a club’s highest scoring striker scored as a % of the club’s total goals from last season. I used 7th place, 13th, 17th and 18th placed clubs from last season to back up why I thought 11 goals would be a good return. So rather than debating the substance of the discussion you are just looking to find fault in what i have said and based on a technicality rather than the substance of the debate.

1. You said I used a sample of 3 and it was not a fact.. Reality I used 4 examples, not 3. I was not looking for a large population, I was specifically using threshold data. 3rd place finish, 17th and 18th and one in the middle and I selected Toon as they are currently on the same points as us. Do you understand the difference between population sample size and threshold data? You have still not stated what is not a fact.
2. You said I was talking about 10 goals and added a goal to make it 11. RealityAs I proved by reposting my initial comment I introduced the total number of goals as a discussion point and clearly said 11 and not 10.
3. You then say I am rounding up to 11 to suit my argument. Reality The actual number is 10.85 and I rounded it to 11. This is correct rounding and it not bias.
4. You them pursue an argument that you can’t score .85 of a goal and that I am wrong. RealityObviously you can’t score 0.85 of a goal and I am going to give you the credit of understanding why I rounded to 11. However, you are completely moving away from the substance of the argument of whether Wes is any good or not.

All this is doing is deflecting away from the discussion and adding irrelevant noise to BB’s blog. Again I am giving you credit for understanding what we were talking about and that you know perfectly well the point I made with the comparison statistics. What is your point of this other than trolling? For the benefit of the blog it would be much better if you tried to stick to the debate. By all means defend your point of view but try doing it by actually defending it rather than trying to point out a very minor aspect of my argument as being incorrect. Regardless of whether it is 10 or 11 goals it doesn’t really make much material difference to the substance of the debate yet you just want to focus on the rounding of 0.85 to 1 as opposed to zero. If your objective is to try and prove me wrong (you do say I am wrong over and over again) I suggest that you keep it for your blog as opposed to doing it here.

BB, I hope this comment doesn’t take away from your blog, if you do not want this comment appearing please feel free to delete it. I am just finding the irrelevant focus on proving me wrong quite frustrating and I think it takes away from the blog. I do think discussing Wes is interesting and it is definitely something that is debated elsewhere and people have differing opinions. It is a good topic for debate and it is a pity we can’t just have a mature debate about it.

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1 year ago
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FFS, the entire midfield is Man City

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1 year ago
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It is 100% based on statistics and each player gets a score. It is a very objective way of assessing which players are performing. Although they lost to Norwich they also beat Watford 8-0 which probably skews the results

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1 year ago
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Ah, Cocu now 2-1 up on Barnsley. 🙂

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1 year ago
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As per comment policy – It’s a football blog, and at times discussions will become heated. As long you both play nicely you can disagree all you like, I don’t have a problem with it, you both have a block button at your disposal if the kitchen gets too hot. ?? All things considered, debates between you both have been far worse in the past.

I am sure your both aware but i will point out
It all started with a reply to your Merson comment from James, about in 100 games things can look different, and you said how fans have already begun to write off our players after seven games. I used Westwood and Lowton in my header the other day as a referral to what I believe to be ongoing scapegoating.

James then went on to say Wes at the moment is a complete dud… rubbish and a giant tit.

It was pointed out the number of goals Wes is likely to end up with, and James deemed it not a good return for someone who cost 22 mil. It was then that I posted the top scorers table in the PL last season. To show only a few elite players hit higher numbers and certainly not those adapting to a new team and League.

Also knowing Wes is not a natural No 9 and that he only scored 10 and 7 in last two seasons in Belgium. Only made James expectations of 15/13 goals more bizzare, in my opinion.

Anyway, the debate then went from the amount of goals ten not being a decent return to then pens not really counting, which was ridiculous.

hence why I made a sarcastic remark about goals in the area not counting because if scoring from pens mean you’re just good at that – then same must apply if you are tapping them in from the 6-yard area, as it just proves your good at that.

James said Wes had some chances and has failed to take advantage. Personally, I don’t remember him having too many clear cut chances. James also stated that we had seen plenty of crosses going into the box, but Wes has not been in the right positions and used the first goal against Burnley as an example to sum up Wes in a nutshell, completely not in the right areas.

To be honest, I dropped out of the debate as I thought the goalposts kept moving. I saw no reason to continue, plus I had other things to do.

Using leading top scorer for the club

Man City 95 goals Sergio Aquero 21
74 times in the wrong place???

Liverpool 89 goals Mo Salah 22 goals
67 times in the wrong place???

Tottenham 67 goals – Kane 17 goals
50 times in the wrong place???

Villa has scored eight goals in seven games, Wes having scored Two goals. If Villa continues to score at the current rate, Villa will have scored approx 44 goals come the end of the season. And Wes between 10/11goals. Last season Burnley scored 45 goals, Southampton 45 goals, Brighton 35 goals they all survived. and burnley’s highest goal scorer got 12, not sure how many of them were penalties thou???.

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Typical response – moving the goal posts – you should find that domain it would suit you.

It written in black and white below what was said
since when is agreeing on something Wrong ? you will find plenty of instances of where me and Begley don’t agree on things, but were civil and don’t start name calling, so again i think your being selective to suit your narrative.

James every time you come on here all hell breaks lose why is that ? it’s almost like that’s your agenda – we’re either all deluded in our views or wrong, you have even said constant preaching happens.

You simply cannot accept others hold different views to your own – you really do lack people skills and struggle to debate without attacking the person.

You bitch moaned at Vancouver because he doesn’t use your site and thought HJ was a troll.
Imo HJ was a troll but you wouldn’t know because your far to busy to keep up

The one thing you was right about thou was calling us fanatics, is that not what every Villa Fan is, a Villa Fanatic?

speaking about my site, me and Begley the way you just have is the pot calling the kettle black and absolute tosh.

Enough is enough.

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1 year ago
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Apparently you only come in peace .85% of the time ?

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1 year ago

Could than be rounded up to 100% ??

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1 year ago
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BB, Its like a fcuken echo chamber here the way you just agree, agree and agree with everything Begley says (comments below as proof). ????

Begley AVFCVillablog • 4 days ago
Mings and Engles had very poor games. 6’5″ and 6’3″ should be doing better against crosses into the box. I think Taylor stood out most when out of position, also it is hard not to make the link between Taylor coming on and us conceding goals.

AVFCVillablog BB Begley • 4 days ago
That’s absolute crap – as i said scapegoating, some will always get a fee ticket – i put him partially at fault, 1 for not stopping cross coming in for 2nd and not defending 1st goal , but he is not alone in accountability. And also ignore the changes Dyche made which Smith never reacted too.

Begley AVFCVillablog • 4 days ago
Its not scapegoating, its just how i saw the game. I didn’t think Mings and Engles were good, Engels more so and I thought Taylor’s positioning flaws were very obvious on the TV. This could be just the way the TV showed the game, I obviously wasn’t there but he just looked to be getting himself out of position too frequently

AVFCVillablog BB Begley • 4 days ago
So wa sGuilbert at Fault or does he get a free ride because neither him or El Ghazi stopped the cross – but Taylors to blame for 2nd ball in double standards

Begley AVFCVillablog • 4 days ago
I didn’t say they weren’t at fault, no double standards! i said I thought Taylor’s positioning flaws were very obvious on the TV.

AVFCVillablog BB Begley • 4 days ago
yes it was Very obvious on TV maybe people need to see re run

Why you not talking about Guilbert positioning flaws ? why he half heartedly stuck a foot out and El Ghazi tried to come to his rescue situation just before the ball came in. which Taylors at fault for not defending

Sounds like you and others are being selective who you critique for the goals , which to me is scapegoating.

Perhaps Taylor is the next Ashley Westwood ??????

It seems your happy to publicly name Taylor as being at fault, yet not once did you say anything about Guilbert or Engles – well not until i brought their names into equation.

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1 year ago
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very nicely photo shopped ?? what ever you do don’t look through the archives – i do recall during transfer window you was telling me it was sentimental of me to say if we get a new keeper steer should start and it’s his shirt to lose – i think you wanted Butland then ??

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1 year ago
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Don’t mention Butland.

My two main transfer targets this summer, other than Mings and Axel were Butland & Mitrovic. Butland was the keeper worth spending 20m+ on and would have been our number 1 GK for the next 8 years or so. 25m would have been an absolute bargain. I have wanted Butland at VP for the last 4 or 5 years. And look at him now, he is proving he is doing his best to keep Stoke bottom of the Chumps. He is not simply relying his team mates being crap, he is top of the Chumps table for making individual errors which lead to goals.

I do still think Butland is a good GK and obviously he is having a little bit of an off time with Stoke but I have to acknowledge Vancouver on his views, if I recall correctly he was always behind getting Heaton as our GK and I am really impressed with Heaton, he is quality although he does have it difficult as some people are not impressed by any of our new recruits this summer.

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1 year ago
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I don’t really mind whether you take it back or not, I think just about everyone understand that 10.85 is rounded to 11 and can understand the reasoning behind me electing to do so.

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1 year ago
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To add to that, whoscored.com is a reputable source for football statistics. They quote a stat of shots per game, see below link. K de Bruyne is in top spot with 2.6 shots per game. What do you think this means? Is it wrong? Have you any idea what 0.6 of a shot means?

https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/7811/Stages/17590/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2019-2020

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1 year ago
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Derby losing 1-0 to Barnsley and currently in 17th place. I really rate Cocu and wanted him at Villa. I will be interested to watch Derby’s progress or otherwise as Derby manager

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1 year ago
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Tammy scores for Chelsea away from home in the Champions League. Its funny, he only played with us for 1 season but I don’t think I have ever felt as much affection for any single player that has left Villa for another club. I think staying with us in Jan and the consequence of said has helped him find a place in my heart as a Villa player that will be there forever. Delighted for you Tammy, keep banging them in and again a HUGE thank you for what you helped Villa achieve

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1 year ago
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He certainly doing far better than i expected, I am happy for him all he ever wanted was a chance and it seems he grabbing it with both hands.

I also agree it entirely possible without him we would not of been promoted, Tammy and McGinn arriving is something i can credit Bruce’s for.

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1 year ago
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Yes, Bruce brought in some decent players. Axel was very good and JT was a good too and it was obviously a stepping stone to joining DS’s team now.

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1 year ago
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BB, Bloody hell, James is having a right pop at you. You appear to be on the slippery slope now as without James you are nothing. ??

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1 year ago
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At least your not public enemy number one now

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1 year ago
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Makes a change

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1 year ago
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don’t get to excited you only dropped down one place

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1 year ago
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As the commentator just said, 9 goals at Spurs last night and 7 at Anfield so far. Champions League does have the entertainment value

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1 year ago
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Squeaky bum time indeed. 3-3 at Anfield after being 3-0 up. Klopp Out !!!

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1 year ago
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Happy Birthday young man and congrats on the Champions League win tonight

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1 year ago
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It’s a year today since Spud got Cabbage rolled at him i believe

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1 year ago
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Sorry Tammy, I do love you but fcuk that, there is someone out there that deserves thanks more than you do today ?????

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1 year ago
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??? Hopefully some villa lads will have took him out for a few beers tonight

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1 year ago
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He should be offering consultancy services to the Toon fans ??

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1 year ago
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How long does Mike keep him – i think he was expecting a sale to occur and then it would be someone else’s problem

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1 year ago
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Tough to call. He will wait till the last possible moment before sacking him. Mike and I have the same aspirations for our clubs i.e. Premiership survival on goal difference on the final day. Anything better than that is a major bonus

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1 year ago
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Unbelievable owners, media & some fans don’t see what a terrible manager he really is. It irks me no end they are on the same points as us, I’m hoping we pull well clear soonest.
After paying compo to get his services cant see him going that soon, on the sale it’s Mike’s own fault overvaluing the club, apparently triple the money he paid for toon not enough. Its the fans i feel sorry for.

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1 year ago

The crazy thing is that they got 3 of their points against Spurs

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1 year ago
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He could probably get away with the self righteous attitude if he was able to debate. He really struggles to stick to the subject matter of a debate and doesn’t really know how to back up an opinion with some evidence to support what he is trying to say. He gets himself very confused during a debate and then his tendency to make up his own facts kicks in. The end result is usually James throwing his toys out of the pram as his last defence.

Look at yesterday, he started off saying he wasn’t writing off players, moved on to saying Wes was a dud, a tit and a waste of money and then saying 22m should get a 15+ goal striker. Upon learning that a 15+ goal striker was that of an elite player in the PL he realised he was talking shyte and switched his argument to saying 0.85 should not be rounded up and should be rounded down. This technicality had nothing to do with the debate but he was using it as his “Get out of jail free” card. As he got more out of his depth with this discussion he resorted to throwing his toys out of the pram and switched to his old reliable of attacking the person as opposed to the debate.

This is the normal way a 10 year old / 12 year old would debate as they are only developing critical thinking and language skills but over the following few years as the child matures and continues their learning these skills also improve. James appears to have missed out on this learning process and his self righteous attitude prevents him developing his skills today. He is a bright enough lad but he badly needs some guidance.

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1 year ago
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Cracking game at Anfield. Pool 4-3 up

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1 year ago
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Thanks i just put it on

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1 year ago
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Liverpool gone from 3-0 up to 3-2 up at home to Salzberg and still 30 mins left. Squeaky bum time for JCV’s mates

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1 year ago
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Gave his all for us and helped us achieve our aim, will always be grateful to the man and he deserves the gratitude of all villa fans.
Hope he achieves great things and recieves a great reception when he returns to VP as a Chelsea player.

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1 year ago
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Having lost to Napoli this is a potential disaster for Liverpool

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1 year ago
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The point is those goals tallys include goals from the pen spot

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1 year ago
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Just look at the list of players that BB posted that got 15+
Salah
Aubameyang
Mane
Aguero
Vardy
Kane
Sterling
Hazard

All 100m+ players, some 200m+ except for Vardy but that is age related.

You are having a laugh saying 15+ is a good season. ?????

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1 year ago
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To address your specific points
1. A team can play well and not have given the service to a lone striker. Goals from other areas, build up play, defence, overall approach to the game each contribute to playing well. Playing well and giving service to Wes are not mutually exclusive.
2. As per BB’s post, how many goals do u expect from Wes. Also, the term u used was that he was a dud. I am saying 11 goals is that the form of a dud player and I would be happy an 11 goal return. I do not expect him to be competing for the golden boot.
3. Appreciating a players quality can be somewhat subjective and from what I have seen these are good players. If you can’t see Heaton is a good GK or Engels is a good CB then I think that you probably don’t understand football as much as you believe you do. Remember your views on Jack? Drop him / not good enough for us
4. I did say Merse talks some shyte, not sure what point u are making
5. I am saying we will improve based on my experience of watching DS with a new set of players. Remember last season when we got new players in and some people completely ruled out our chances of promotion. DS proved them wrong and improved our performances and got us promoted. The fact that we are able to take the lead in games bodes very well. If we were losing 4-0 every game I would be much more concerned.

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1 year ago
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I didn’t say give DS the whole season no matter what. I have repeatedly said if we go a really bad losing streak he will have to go but without a really bad streak I think we should stick with him for the season.

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1 year ago
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Yes I say give him the season and as I said if he goes on a really bad loosing streak he will have to go

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1 year ago
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He is not close. In the last 6 games we have not lost two consecutive games. So we are only 1 game into a really bad loosing streak

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1 year ago
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Fcuk me just seen final score 7-2

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1 year ago

I have to agree, I can’t see any justification for not giving it

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1 year ago
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Yes Rugby gets it right, but I am temporarily not a rugby fan at the moment. Last Sat was a little depressing. Cricket gets it right too. Great win for Wales

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1 year ago
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HaHa the Baggies reject gets a hat trick for Bayern away from home in the Champions League against last years finalist. A very bad result for Spurs. Conceding 5 at home is something an ‘elite’ team should never do

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1 year ago
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Fcuk me. conceding 5 is something that shouldn’t happen. conceding 7 is a joke. This is not City v Watford

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1 year ago

Noses losing to Wigan

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1 year ago

Not a chance. Levy has a 32m release clause and Utd and Madrid are apparently interested. He may be having a poor start to the season but I think his CV will still get him a top job

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1 year ago
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I mean, Levy won’t sack Poch as he will be looking for compo if he leaves

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1 year ago
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100%

I am looking forward to seeing Eriksen leave on a free next summer. And signing a pre contract in Jan will piss Levy off even more. They could have easily got 50m / 60m for him this summer but Levy expected a bidding war and it didn’t happen. I love the karma of him and Vertongen leaving for free

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1 year ago
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???

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1 year ago
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No pen for that. I would have given it. There was contact

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