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Liverpool Nightmare 43 Years On

It’s matchday and Liverpool are in town. Can Villa do what no other team has managed to do and beat them?. For sure It’s a big ask but anythings possible, they will lose at some point so why not today.

I am Reminiscing now, but no one gave us a pray back in December 1976, but we proved all the doubters wrong. I was one of the lucky 42,000 who saw us annihilate Liverpool that night. And I can still envisage it now like it happened last week. I have seen some great games at Villa park but this eclipses them all. And to put it into perspective Liverpool had only conceded 5 goals in their previous eight games.

The team Jake Findlay, John Gidman, John Robson, Leighton Phillips, Charlie Young, Dennis Mortimer, John Deehan, Brian Little, Andy Gray, Alex Cropley, Frank Carrodus, Mike Buttress. 

At least if we repeat that feat, it will be on film this time. ?

Enough Of The Liverpool Nostalgia

Anyway enough of the nostalgia, Liverpool is what we should be trying to emulate. They lost their way for a quite few years, but under Klopp, they have again become a force.

Results never happened instantaneously. It’s been 4 long hard years in the making, but their hard work has finally paid off. And now they’re reaping their rewards. This is why I believe it’s so important to stick with Dean Smith. Were are in season one of the premier league, with for all intent and purposes a brand new squad.

Of course, it’s going to take time, but we can grow just like Liverpool have done. For those flipper floppers who change their mind on Smith every week depending on the result. Klopp lost plenty of games when he first arrived, yes some Liverpool fans wanted him gone also. Ask them now how they feel. It’s taken many transfer windows and lots of hard work of the training pitch to achieve their success.

There is no reason why we cannot do similar. We just have to show some patience. This season is all about consolidation, nothing more. In football, circles we are not expected to beat the top four teams. But that doesn’t mean we won’t spring a surprise or two at Villa Park this season.

We know what we’re up against a top side today. And regardless of how good they are, they are not invincible, anything is possible. Hopefully, we can once again shock the footballing world So keep the faith and who knows if you missed Liverpool’s first nightmare at Villa Park you might just get to see their second with or without Var’s help.

UTV

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AVFCVillablog
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5 months ago

This is difficult for me, but the blogs readers and contributors deserve some sort of explanation, so here goes.

Due to family circumstances which will remain private, I suddenly found myself in a very dark place, falling into depression, and struggling to cope.

At the same time I tried to remain strong for the wife, not wanting to show her that inside i was in fact a broken man, because she needed me and still does, so i secretly find solace in the bottom of a bottle.

Bottom line is my priorities changed over night, the blog, and the club we all love became unimportant to me and because no one else was involved with the site in an administrative capacity it got abandoned.

Unfortunately I am still not in a position to give the blog the commitment or time it deserves, but thanks to Begley the site finally as a new leader post.
UTV

new post https://avfcvillablog.com/new-mini-season/

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

VV,

I saw your comment about the money and rebates on Damian’s blog. My understanding of how it works is that the PL sells broadcasting rights to many different media companies around the world, Sky the biggest spender with their deal worth 1.193 Billion per season, the deal last up to 2022. I think it is reasonable to assume they would getting in over 2 Billion per season. They will have contracts for this revenue and as they are not fulfilling their contract this season they need to rebate some of the money. The broadcasters pay the PL in instalments during the season. So rebating 300m is about 15% of 1 years revenue. A lot of cash but not exactly something to worry too much about when your revenues are so high.
The PL have contracts / agreements to pay prize money to the clubs at the end of the season and this averages about 150m per club. So the majority of the 300m rebate will be passed on to the clubs which will, on average, reduce earnings to about 120m for this season.

The PL will be very keen to avoid any further rebates and will want to get this season completed. However, I am and always have been a firm believer that the PL will not let a delay in the 2020 season impact the 2021 season. I have seen suggestions that we finish this season next Jan to April and just forget about the 2021 season completely. This will not happen imo as it would presumably cost the PL 1.193Bn to Sky and about another billion to other media organisations.

If there is second C-19 wave I expect that the season will be voided and the objective with this restart is to get Liverpool into a position to award them the title and to have the bottom 3 teams having each played the same number of games and having a few more games completed so relegation justification is easier.

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
5 months ago
Reply to  Begley

The clubs do get paid at the end of the season though right. Payments to PL as an organization are essentially the same thing as the clubs own it. I’ve never heard of any payments being paid until end of season, although you could be right with a trickle down throughout the season ?, but clubs don’t get the lump sum until late May as far as I know.

My point was they won’t have to pay, more accurate to say they will receive less.
Also
As far as broadcasting revenue, you mention overseas, in my case i pay a yearly subscription so I’ve paid exactly the same (no rebate) as I would have in a normal season, so DAZN lost no revenue from me.

Anyway good to hear from you.
Be well

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

Although the clubs are the ‘shareholders’ of the PL they are managed as totally separate entities. The PL charges in advance for broadcasting, a bit like car insurance. They pay out prize money in arrears so only at the end of the season. Wouldn’t it be nice to have 2 Billion a season to earn the interest from.

You are absolutely right in saying the clubs won’t have to pay, I think that is just PR / Media positioning. But the clubs will have budgeted for getting about 150m and that is not going to happen so that is why they are positioning that way. As for the consumer getting a rebate I really can’t see that happen, we are always the ones that pick up the tab.

I know in Ireland that the cost of having SkySports in a pub is about 10k a month for a medium sized pub and about 30k+ a month for a large pub (yes a month and tens of thousands, not a typo) and Sky has waived this fee during Covid.

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
5 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Yep, shocking what they charge pubs etc for live screening, I’m sure many cheat, I know of a few that got into trouble when found out in UK.
One other point surely if the season is completed then the broadcasters haven’t lost any money as the full amount of games will be shown, plus there is advertising revenue.
Maybe the exclusivity of sky, BT et al is the issue I hear they are being broadcast free with some even on the BBC

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

There are some geniuses involved in football. I see it is proposed that the Leeds v Derby game is moved to the convenient neutral venue of Southampton.

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

Where did I slag you off? I said I disagree with a lot of what you say but that you are consistent and that is why I said I did not believe you & James were the same person. How is that slagging you off? Everything I said about James regarding deleting my commets is fully accurate and truthful. I did express my opinion as to why he deleted my comments and why he has responded to me as he has is simply my opinion.

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

I believe I do, I understand that your uncle has passed away and I am making an assumption that he took his own life. I could be wrong but the many references to mental health have drawn me to that conclusion. But I have seen you post many times that you don’t think references to your uncle should be accepted (which I agree with). But on this occasion is it n ot you bringing your uncle into the conversation?

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
5 months ago

Can’t you just rise above it ?

I find it difficult to fathom why grown men & women can’t simply get on with it on one blog. We all have the option to block or simply ignore and not read posts from those you dont appreciate.

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

Just out of interest, what is the purpose of the proposed meeting. is this just school yard stuff?

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

Football schedules are out and Villa v Shef Utd is the opening game live on Sky at 6pm. I can’t wait. 3 points would make a huge difference to us and then Chelsea on the Sunday and a trip to our ex manager’s Newcastle on the Wednesday. A few good results in those 3 games would make a big difference to us.
There are 92 games left to be played and all 92 games are live on TV and there are PL games on 7 days a week. Having gone so long without football I will enjoy the televised saturation of it.

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
5 months ago
Reply to  Begley

10.00 am local in BC, good time for me, get some coffee and breakfast first.
Can’t wait.

Begley
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Begley
5 months ago

I think it would be 11am for you, so don’t promise any shopping trips at midday with the Mrs or you may miss the 2nd half when we complete our rout of Sheffield Utd with our 5 second half substitutes scoring a goal each ?

Just checked and u are obviously right on -8hrs, I thought it was -7. Anyway, still don’t arrange a shopping trip as you will be celebrating LOL

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
5 months ago
Reply to  Begley

No worries, I do sometimes get confused when the clocks change as handily this takes place at different times in UK & Canada ?

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago

hi all,
had a great day out,plenty of rest and sunshine,before i carry on decorating tomorrow.
all jobs nearly done now.just in time for the rest of the season.LOL

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
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Too warm to work ,enjoy the sun

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago

for one im glad the season is being played out,even though i still think we are gone.
prior the the lockdown,our form was pathetic,and we had chelsea as our next game,in which had we had lost,DS could very well have been sacked.
so that was his get out of jail card.

now can he get the points needed,otherwise we will be back to square one.

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago

hi all.
ive noticed somebody saying they are sick at looking at the four walls.
not me,ive been painting them LOL.
roll on the football,i need a break.

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
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What 3 months to paint 4 walls,maybe you are goblin on all his trips????

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

LOL Mate,
i wish it was just 4 walls.
ive done the front room ceiling and all.
same with the dining room.and the kitchen ceiling.
next is the landing.and thats my lot for this year.

Muz1
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Muz1
6 months ago

Just checked on this site, so this is where you all are.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Muz1

Need somewhere to go with bloody lockdown LOL

Muz1
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Muz1
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

No so bad for me as I have been working all the way through it.
Would drive me crazy if I was staring at 4 walls every day.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Muz1

That’s great, it is good for the head space. I think my Mrs is losing the plot having me and the 4 kids in the house 24*7. She is dying for some ‘alone time’. That said, restrictions in Ireland are lifting a little so there is some light at the end of the tunnel. On a HUGE positive the PL is back in less than 3 weeks and there are games 7 days a week on TV.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Muz1

That’s great, it is good for the head space. I think my Mrs is losing the plot having me and the 4 kids in the house 24*7. She is dying for some ‘alone time’. That said, restrictions in Ireland are lifting a little so there is some light at the end of the tunnel. On a HUGE positive the PL is back in less than 3 weeks and there are games 7 days a week on TV.

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Great ti see it back,if smith hasn’t had to time to figure out our problems now,he never will,need our defensive side sorted clean sheets are a myst so no reina or drinky for starters

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
6 months ago
Reply to  Muz1

Don’t tell the goblin !
Last sanctuary ?

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago

Surprised he hasnt visited here and then said we were all tossers and had to report back to base ,james house?????

Muz1
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Muz1
6 months ago

Haha, yes indeed.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

Football back on June 17th. It would be great if they manage to get the season completed but it will be tough. With European games and 10 / 9 rounds of PL games that will take us up to the end of July / early Aug. Doesn’t leave much time for a summer break. I know the players have done fcuk all recently but playing football straight through from June 2020 to July 2021 (Euros) will be a very very long season that will impact quality and injuries.

The first 2 games our Villa v Sheff Utd and City v Arsenal. I think the PL will do all they can to ensure that no teams have games in hand in case of another lockdown and another suspension to the league which would probably be cancelled but the PL will want Liverpool to have been confirmed the winners and the bottom 3 to have played the same amount of games.

I assume the games will be behind closed doors and I haven’t seen anything about neutral grounds so I assume they will be played in the correct stadia. Unfortunately this will probably reduce the home advantage and given our away form we probably needed that little advantage. Who knows we may actually pick up some points away from home. I am pleased for Smith too, it gives him a chance to prove himself. McGinn is back and I read that Heaton is back running. but not training. I haven’t seen anything about Wes, it would be great if he was back too. The downside of that argument is that the likes of Rashford and other injured players will also be back for other teams.

I must admit, I can’t fcuken wait for some live sport on TV. We are now well and truly deep in the pits of repeats on TV so something new would be very welcome. I don’t like the idea of football behind closed doors but beggers can’t be choosers and I will accept what I can get.

Up the Villa, win our game in hand over Sheffield and put the pressure on the other teams.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

BFR

Dundalk assistant among the new faces as Kenny makes three additions to Ireland backroom team

https://www.the42.ie/stephen-kenny-coaching-staff-5109543-May2020/

Looking brighter for the future. This could impact (negatively) Hourihane’s market value to Villa

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Funny you should mention Hourihane’s name, I just watched the full 90 minute rerun of the play off final today, he was excellent in that game for the most part really won the ball well and made some great forward passes, not to mention his performances in the baggies semi.
Much rather have him start in the run in, if there actually is one, than Luiz.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

What a great game to watch. Yes he was firing on all cylinders for much of last season. The new Ireland manager is from league of Ireland, we usually get expensive English based managers or an Italian. This new guy plays nice football and brings in a lot of youth players. The lesser performing English based players may get pushed out a bit

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago

Watched conor play for ireland never been more disappointed in any player heart and courage of bumbling boris, championship is his level at best

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Like kenny met him a few times when he managed derry ,knows his football and players his main problem will be the dublin media they never gave him a chance at shamrock rovers

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

I think that following the last number of years most realistic Irish fans should give this management team a bit of time before jumping on them. Qualification for the Euros would be a hugely positive start

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

BFR, by the way, I recall james posting that you are no longer banned. I think he gets a rush of blood and bans people and then regrets it and unbans them so I believe you can post there again. I am sure you and AVFC / Sjh have a lot of catching up to do ?

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Think you seen my comment below on james,I never used any bad language, racist remarks yes plenty of double meanings,but the man from uncle has fell out with everyone posted heaps racist posts yet no bans is he james as is hobgoblin

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

I never thought of them as the same person, I don’t think they are tbh. Although I disagree with a lot of what AVFC writes, I think he is consistent with his views so I don’t believe it is the same person as James. James is a bit more like a rudderless boat and goes where the populist wind is blowing.

I think the reason AVFC doesn’t get a ban is that he agrees with James most of the time and that is the kind of ego massage that James needs so he accepts the infringements from AVFC.

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Makes my point on james right

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

mate,
your ban has been lifted as well.

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

Sooner that racist cnut is shut down the better,it is worst run site I have come across ,the racist tone is unbelievable, you mate live in northfield plenty of different race of people living their,I know my uncle has lved their for last 30 years

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

JCV, thanks mate but it is quite clear James doesn’t want me on his blog. The subtle hints I get are ?
‘you brain dead moron’
‘I don’t like you, you’re an idiot and I have little respect for you’
‘make no mistake.. I think you are a fucking moron who has mental issues’

Not that any of that bothers me in the slightest and hence I continued to post but there but is simply no point in contributing when James is totally focused on simply arguing with me for no reason and simply deleting my comments because I posted something that disagrees with his narrative. I thought Damian was bad but James has taken it to a new level of censorship. It would be nice if I could just chat to others but James has a bit of an insecurity complex and he needs to try and prove himself better than me and when he doesn’t get his way he throws his toys out of his pram. Unfortunately there is no point in posting on his blog which sadly is becoming a common view with many people who have posted on his blog. Maybe in time he will learn from his mistakes but I don’t expect it too soon. Ironic that when he launched his blog it was all about having a place to post without censorship.

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago

Hi lads

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

Hi BFR, good to hear from you. how is C-19 treating you and your family, hope u are all okay

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

All good just completely fed up at this stage,thing it was Vancouver wrote we are going to have to accept the risks and get on with life,glad to hear your father made a recovery, nursing homes have a lot to answer for or the government who govern them

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

I think we are all getting a bit fed up. I am really dying to get out to the pub for a pint with the Mrs. The good weather isn’t helping either, it is far too nice to be staying locked up at home. At least restrictions are lifting a little. My wife is currently out in our local town to meet a friend and get a takeaway coffee and sit by the water which is a nice improvement. Kids love the lack of school. My 15 year old daughter wants to have home schooling implemented permanently and maybe just go to school for PE and Science Labs. Each of my kids are really enjoying doing exams at home as opposed to a normal exam environment.

But yes as VV said we do need to get back to normality ASAP. Hopefully this AZ /Oxford Uni vaccine will actually work and will hit the supply line in Sept / Oct and we can then just completely end all social distancing measures and if people elect not to get a vaccine then that is their lookout

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

My son met one school pals today for 1st since lockdown way over the 5km ruling ,but in rural Ireland 5k is length of some laneways,got to laugh all golfers suddenly only lived 5k from course

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

My Mrs is insisting on the 2m social distancing every night when we go to bed ?.

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

Expat has had all his life ??

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago
Reply to  Big fat ron

so has our defence.
??????

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

LOL

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

The Premier League has moved a step closer to restarting fixtures as coronavirus restrictions are eased, after clubs voted unanimously to resume contact training.

Players will now be asked to train as a group, with the move allowing them to tackle each other again “while minimising any unnecessary close contact”.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-premier-league-return-inches-closer-as-clubs-vote-to-resume-contact-training-11995553

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

hi Begley,are you still on line at the moment.
so the football will carry on,and for me.that was the only way it had to go.

there are plenty of people who are working in close contact,ie the dustmen where they still have 3 or 4 in the wagon.
same with ambulance drivers and they are not wearing gloves or masks.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

The issue with it now is that it is so late it will be difficult to do next season. If football starts mid June then the league will finish by the end of July / start of Aug. Then the FA cup final and also the European games. That doesn’t give much time for a preseason and break between end of the season and the start of the next season. As per my comment below, I think they are just trying to get to a stage where Liverpool have won the league and the relegation clubs have each played the same amount of games and the PL will hope that they have slipped a bit further away from the rest of the league so it will be ‘easier’ to relegate 3 teams without them feeling too hard done by

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

hi mate,
we could say that they have had enough of a break allready.LOL

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

Yes indeed, I think that is quite true. I see the contracts situation has not been resolved. Clubs are allowed to extend contracts but it is up to the player to agree to it.

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago

hi lads,
i have to say,have cummings and johnson become the new morecombe and wise.
quote “i tod boris when we were both ill about my trip,but none of us could remember it.
even boris said the same.
“i went on a drive with my familly to test my eyesight”

then boris pulled out a pair of glasses to say he now needs them.
????????

f/me if anybody believes that load of twaddle,they will believe anything.
think ill take a drive to worcester,to check that my eyesight is ok LOL

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

It is embarrassing the crap they are coming out with and as you say Boris taking the glasses out of his pocket was just sad. All credibility has gone. It is really damaging the party not resolving it quickly. I think if people believe the BS from the pair of them they are very gullible but I think rather than believe them people will just make up excuses to try and defend them.

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

Driving a car with your wife and kids to test your eye sight ???

I like Boris, good leadership if nothing else, a charasmatic personality is what is required for the pandemic & brexit, but FM if this is his best advisor and he thinks this will wash with voters then he’s really gone down in my estimation. Tbh he could have had him resign and still used his advice, no one would have known.

Btw. You do realize your chromebook was probably made in China and undoubtedly in a factory next to a wet market ! ?

Be well mate

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

Yes, I like Boris too and I agree that you need that bit of charisma for Brexit and C-19 and Boris does have it. He is making a bit of a mess of the DC thing though. Good point that he could still have used him but not made it public but I think DC has his head a little too far up his arse to accept that.

Re JCV’s Chromebook coming from China. My son bought a new laptop and it was delivered about 4 weeks ago, so it was ordered and shipped during lockdown. He was tracking the shipping of it online to see when it would be delivered. It originated in China and then went to Hong Kong, Dubai, Cologne and then Dublin to get to our house. It got a good cleaning when it was unboxed ???

Big fat ron
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Big fat ron
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

Mate you are chatting to them every day james and the man from uncle lol

Vancouvervillan
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Vancouvervillan
6 months ago

The sensible thing has always been to void the season and concentrate on trying to start next season properly, on time and as safely as possible, without undermining the game, people’s freedoms or ability to assess their own adversity to risk.

I don’t want Covid-19 protocols, I want normality and accept the risks that may come with that, TBF the risk is the same risks we have always taken in life whilst driving, flying, travelling, flu’s, common colds, violence, terrorism …
Let’s hope that common sense prevails, football without the fans is not football.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago

I am in full agreement with you, football without fans is daft and I think the sensible thing is to cancel the season and start afresh next season. Yes this could potentially benefit Villa but that really is not the point.

jcv
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jcv
6 months ago
Reply to  Begley

hi mate,
but until they find a virus fans will still be banned from games.
given what you have said,football could be in lockdown for a couple of seasons.
if the germans can play so should we.

Begley
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Begley
6 months ago
Reply to  jcv

My belief has always been that once a vaccine is available the country will be allowed to achieve herd immunity. I also believe this vaccine will not take too long. For example the AZ / Oxford initiative say they will have a vaccine in Sept and that they are waiting on the clinical trials to conform it works. The reason countries are treating C-19 differently to other viruses is because we can get a vaccine against the flu etc and it is tough shit if u elect not to get vaccinated. As there is no vaccine for C-19 the government feel responsible to protect the people.
I read this morning thatthe PL want to start next season by Sept 12th regardless of whether this season has been completed or not. Again, I believe this was always going to be the case as the financial hit of delaying next season is far worse than the financial hit of not completing this season.
If we do get a return to football in empty stadia then it will be interesting to see what Sky do for televising games. Will all games be available on SkySports? I would be very happy if they are.
As to what I think will happen. This is a tough one but I expect that the PL will want to play a few more games to get into a position where Liverpool have the league won and can be awarded the title and all teams have played the same number of games, particularly so for Villa as it potentially impact relegation. So maybe we will get to see another 5 or 6 games and then void the league and relegated teams that sit in the bottom 3. So if this is correct then if when there is a return to football it will be really important that we hit the ground running, win our game in had and pull a couple of places above the dropzone.

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