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Patience Required It’s all About Progression (Critics)

There seems to be a lack of patience considering Dean Smith won us promotion within eight months of arriving and broke the club’s consecutive win record along the way. However, It’s not taken long for the critics to get their knives out either. Have those fans forgot the years of turmoil we endured before the arrival of Dean Smith.

With the support of NSWE, Smith’s task is now to put us back amongst the elite. It’s going to take time, so some patience is required. I am sure the road ahead will be a rocky one. And things will not always run smooth. After all, he’s not a miracle worker, but he’s a damn good coach, and I believe he deserves a bit more respect than what he is getting from the ultra negative section of our fan base, just because we lost our first two premier league fixtures.

Show Some Patience

Patience is a practice in trust, and you can’t tell me you don’t trust Dean Smith. We were all told of the plan, the vision, and even if Dean Smith was not your choice back in October, he deserves your respect now with what he achieved in such a small amount of time and predominantly with another managers players. From here on in it’s simply about progression. This season survival, we then add to the squad next summer and aim a little higher.

Hands up because he seems to be everybody’s scapegoat. How many of you would have played Neil Taylor last season?. Smith did, and after a run of games, Neil Taylor improved massively. I think the point I am trying to make here is Smith’s ability to recognise Taylor’s worth to the team. When perhaps most of us would have gone with Alan Hutton.

The players mostly at Smith’s disposal now are his own, and he’s brought them here because he believes they will work in his system, and they fit the criteria of the club in general in regards age and potential.

Early Days

It’s early days, even more so given the influx of new players in the summer, so we need to cut the team a little slack. Not all the new players came in at the end of May, so Smith’s had a short amount of time to work with most. So he’s stuck with the core group of players and has only changed where necessary up to now.

Too many players brought into the mix immediately would probably have caused more problems than it solved on the pitch. And it would do nothing for the morale of those who helped achieve promotion. So again understandable and some Patience needed.

You know what, I expect nonsense from the media as it’s the nature of the industry. But not from our fan base after two games. So if your one of them being critical give your heads a wobble.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is, we’re two games into a new season, and that’s too early to be criticising anyone. However, It’s almost standard practice nowadays. Fans rarely show patience and always look at everything in black and white. And individual players become scapegoats for fans frustrations. It’s not smart, and it’s certainly not healthy.

Our club is stronger with a unified fan base. There are enough haters out there who want to put us down without us turning on ourselves. That makes us weaker? Think about that for a minute. Last season we were all, well most of us, singing from the same hymn sheet. And we were rewarded because we got behind the players.

Get off Wesley’s Back

Wesley has already come in for some stick, again no patience being shown. Why? because it suits their narrative. In fact, some fans have already written him off. Seriously? I cannot wait for that to come back and haunt them. Yes, we know he’s here to score goals, but how many clear cut chances have been created for him?. I can’t quite hear you?. You’re going to have to shout up. Oh right, he needs to get in the box, Yes he’s had terrific service to date hasn’t he, what a waste of money.

You do realise the guys adjusting to life in one of the hardest leagues in the world. And when your up top on your own it’s twice as difficult. Some fans have short memories, Christian Benteke only netted once in his first six appearances. Perhaps the fact he netted on his debut bought him some time.

Targett & Guilbert Inclusion

Many fans are also banging the drum for the inclusion of Matt Targett, and Frederic Guilbert after a promising showing in pre-season. The truth of the matter is probably not that complicated. Well, not If you have taken on board what I wrote above.

It’s also entirely possible Ahmed Elmohamedy came back from the African cup of nations in much better physical shape than Frederic Guilbert. And with Dean Smith wanting to play Trezeguet opted for some continuity with there National team connection.

And given Elmo’s recent stats, I would say it’s his shirt to lose.
I believe in due course, we will see the Introduction of the more attacking fullbacks, and that will give us another dimension and also help Wesley. Dean Smith is nobody’s fool, and you can guarantee he’s got a valid reason for his choices to date.

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AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago

My keyboard is dying i’m having to switch it on/off for it to respond, and i have no spare batteries so unless I can lay my hands on an old wired one you will all get a break from me.

be good won’t ya?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

Put the batteries on a heater for a half an hour and they will get some charge which should be enough for a keyboard.
Note: Extreme risk of fire if you heat them too much. Warm and not hot and only for 30 mins. Do not do a BB and put them in the oven for 30 mins ?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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i was told once,drop them on the floor.
dont know if it works though

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago

re Deano,
i dont think that we can say one way or the other on how he turns out as a manager.
we can give our thoughts of course.but its just far to early to judge.
i can think of many managers that got teams into the top tear,and some in fact had a good first season.
only to collapse the next one.

many of them are now either in the lower leagues,or sitting on a panel.
in fact im finding it hard to think of one that has gone onto better things.

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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perhaps moyes was the last one.

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago

i cant get the reply link to work.
is anybody else having probs with it.?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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yes mate,ive just gone straight on to your reply this time.??

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago

All this discussion is far better what could have been a day discussion our 1-0 loss away to Luton last night and how that impacts our promotion prospects this season ?

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago

Afternoon folks

Were here and across the boards to give our opinions on the club, manager, players, tactics, formations, this creates the debates we all love and hate. And just to be perfectly clear, just because i am firmly in favor of Dean Smith, he is not beyond critique.

My call for patience is because i believe in Dean Smith I am sold on the idea of Villa playing a modern brand of progressive attacking football under him. And you don’t just flick a light switch.

We all have our preferred choices and i admit they’re have been a few down the line i have given no time. because i thought they were not the right fit. but also invested too much time in others.

But getting back to Dean Smith, on the back of what he’s achieved for our club in a short amount of time, I would like to think even his doubters would cut him some slack.

But what i struggle to understand is why any true villa fan would be discontent right now. Perhaps they don’t appreciate what’s been achieved so far or grasp the size of job in hand

Perhaps that’s the reason, for some of the reactions to our recent defeats. maybe some fans look at the lower Premier league clubs like they looked at the likes of Bolton and others in the championship.

Were not an established premier league club anymore, and if we dropped down into the championship at the end of the season, I guarantee fans would expect us to win it the following year just like before.

So it’s down to Perceptions and expectations above all else, and it’s these that have to be managed this season.
It’s going to be incredibly difficult just to survive and the quicker we all accept this as a fan base the better.

We have a habit of doing the merry go round, perhaps we should stay on and not jump off so quick this time around, You never know we might actually achieve some long term success.

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keithj
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

I never knew a lot about DS but what he did in a short amount of time was miraculous, on the other hand I hated Bruce’s appointment from day 1 lol

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  keithj

I didn’t know much about DS other than when Villa played Brentford I generally got to see some nice football and it normally went Brentford’s way

keithj
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keithj
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

About it mate

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  keithj

And I only discovered that he was a Villa fan after a period of time

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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The reason SB appointment was warmly met by majority of fans was out of pure desperation, I was not one of them, But we had suffered an horrendous period before we finally got relegated from the PL, Then up popped up Dr No, with all his promises and after he ruthlessly dismissed RDM your thinking this guy ain’t messing around, and then he employs Bruce, the promotion specialist so it was kind of understandable why the fan base believed he was the guy.

I think the majority of Fans pretty much new it was gonna be dire footy but his shortcomings and management style were quickly ignored because fans were desperate for promotion.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing – plenty had been written about his time at his former clubs but fell on deaf ears.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Another thing that turned up and caught me off guard is the amount of unforced individual errors that lead to goals. Two against Bournemouth alone. Also the unlucky goals. Two big deflections off Mings in two games, one against Spurs and one against Bournemouth. I am not looking for luck in a game but I would like not to be unlucky. Hopefully it balances out over the course of the season.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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So it wasn’t bad luck the ball deflecting off Mings? Do you think NDombele aimed for Mings or was he going directly for goal?
After Jack getting caught with the ball outside the box (poor play) I am guessing that we weren’t unlucky with the bit of pinball in the box before the ball landed nicely for Kane

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

That was skill. Luiz lined up the shot and put it in the top corner. It didn’t take any ricochets on the way to Luiz and nor did it take any deflections on the way to goal and nor did the GK make an error. Come on James, surely you can see the difference between the goals

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

LOL okay, Luiz got lucky with the goal, he never intended to score when he kicked the ball.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Of course Kane intended the goal. Did u actually read my comment or see the goal?
with the bit of pinball in the box before the ball landed nicely for Kane

What do you think I intended by the text in italics?
a) that Kane didn’t mean his goal or b) that Kane was lucky the way the ball landed nicely for him?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Okay, at least we have got away from you claiming I said Kane’s goal was pure luck. We are getting there.

I said that two of Spurs goals had luck associated with them. One took a deflection and the other had some pinball. Yes they were all over us but we were defending well. I think over the course of the game Spurs deserved to win but I am assessing the goals on their merits. For some reason you won’t admit to these things.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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“we made you fuck up”

So what did Bournemouth do to make Heaton fcuk up after 45 seconds and how did they get Luiz to step over the ball LOL

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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That argument might hold some weight at the end of the season but so far it played 1 won 1 away
Your saying this purely on there results last season and ignoring improvements are possible.

As for lack of fire power not sure i see the point your trying to make – different league different level of defenders Kodjia never scored until the 4th and 5th game of last season Tammy never scored til 10th game

but using same period last year first 2 games Elphick Emo Hutton on opening day
and Chester and Bjarnasson the game after

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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With our lack of firepower only 9 teams in the Premier League have scored more goals than we have scored. If you offered me that stat next May I would bite you arm off

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

I agree re Wes, I have said the same for a long time. But we have 10 outfield players. But from looking at our formation and the players we have bought I do not believe DS is expecting Wes to be a top scorer. I would say he will be targeted with getting 10+ goals over the course of the season. And as you say he “looks more of a creator”, that works for me if he is creating goals for others. As I said, only 9 teams in the PL have scored more goals than we have so based on the evidence of the two games (which it appear you are doing) I can’t see how you have determined we have a lack of firepower

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Having a Maupay sitting on the bench may be nice but it is very difficult to get a striker to be backup in a 4-1-4-1 setup. Also, we don’t know what our budget is, we may not have had the cash. DS is going into this season with Wes, Kodjia and Davis and obviously feels that is enough and he feels that money was better spent in other aspects of the team.
People were convinced DS fcuked up last year with our promotion push and were proven wrong. Maybe DS knows a little more about football and our players ability that we do.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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I believe our promotion push a result of DS’s Jan signings, players returning from injury and hard work on the training ground. I believe that we would not have got promotion without DS so I credit him with getting us promoted. Do you not?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

I am not dressing it up, I am just not dressing it down. Does the form team not usually win the playoffs? Fulham last season?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Ah, so it is one of those unrelated coincidences that the form team for the last couple of years has continued with their good form and won the playoffs.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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This is the first i’ve heard that claims were made that Bournemouth are a good away side and we should not expect to win

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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I am responding to you saying Bournemouth are a poor away side, evidently not having played 1 won 1 – you obviously said this purely on last season which has no relevance to this season because everyone can improve which is why i said it may hold more weight at the end of the season but not exactly valid now.

I can’t judge them after one away game

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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so you cant improve through training? it has to come from additions that’s a Bruce philosophy

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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I am defending this loss on the performance overall and the way the game panned out, a GK error and a deflected shot

If can’t expect to beat sides like Bournemouth who should we expect to gain points from home to?

you don’t always get what you deserve from a footy game james and sometimes you get more than you deserve, hence why i have mentioned many fans see everything in black and white like we should beat them etc

crikey James your glass is not even half full your on dregs buddy

And wtf you bringing Bruce into a debate for to try and make out like it’s double standards on my part
Scrapping the barrel now – i am saying it how i see it – and fcuk bruce he had 3 seasons

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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I have said already to day i have not given certain managers in the past time and given others to much time, surely you can work out which CAT Bruce fell into

For starters Bruce never won us promotion in 8 months did he, and his football was dire

But i think Begley nailed it when he replied to you with what we had to endure in regards Bruce setting up the team, players out of position etc and he couldn’t even get that right after 2+ seasons and adding 22 players

And just because we lost to Bournemouth doesn’t mean we will now lose to other teams of similar ilk and neither does it mean we will win either, we can only judge each game on it’s merit.

I obviously seen the game differently to yourself which is fine, we all have our views but for me i have seen an over reaction across the boards from the fan base.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Smith being Manager is neither here or there

we are newly promoted team and had a big influx of players common sense says at very least were gonna need time to adjust regardless of opposition.

I don’ buy well Sheff and Norwich don’t need time
because Norwich squad have been together almost 2 seasons and Sheff similar and again it short term looking at 2 games

But Back to Smith – given he got things right last season – then why should i not believe he won’t this season?, It’s not blind faith because he’s already delivered once.

He’s earned my respect and the the right to be given time and i am not gonna throw a hissy fit over a few early losses especially in the manor they have occurred and with a team still adjusting to each other.

spurs away no one really expected us to get anything .

Bournemouth a costly error by Heaton – who knows how that game pans out if he clears that ball

Errors will happen and i suspect were working hard to eradicate them but no way is it a bench mark to how our future home games against our min league opponent will end

Nothing is given we will have to perform to survive and that just means being better than 3 other teams

Things could be a lot worse we could still be playing 3 times a week in that awful championship

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

James

Try the truth some time. You know exactly what my views on Bruce were.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

Maybe truth is another one of those words you don’t quite understand the meaning of too

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

It depends on whether Bruce had either sold or loaned out our CBs during the transfer window or not and whether we were playing RBs and Jedi in a back 4 and leaving our on LB out of the team.
If Bruce played a RB, 2 CBs and a LB my view may be different.

Its not all about the result it is about how the team is setup and what the team is trying to do

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

A poor away side who have been in the PL for the last 4 years, where we are a team that finished 5th and 18 points behind the top of the Championship winners last season. Does that put us on a par with Bournemouth or in a position that we should be beating them?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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No, if you didn’t take soundbites of comments u would see that. I have consistently stated that DS and the team need time to gel and work together on the training ground and that we will get better with time.

But rather than deflect and try and say my logic is flawed, do you think that we should be on a par / ahead of Bournemouth and should be beating them?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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“will get better” that is an assumption based on faith not an assessment based on anything specific is it really

Incorrect.
It is a logical position based on past performance of DS with bringing new players into the team. He has only had one opportunity to do this before during his Villa career. After 4 or 5 weeks we showed a marked improvement and actually broke the club record for consecutive wins.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Why is it so hard to stick to the point of the discussion?

I am saying we will get better

You are saying that is blind faith

I am saying it is not blind faith it is based on the fact that DS improved our team the last time he had an opportunity of a transfer window at Villa

The point is his ability to improve a team. The ability to improve is irrelevant to the league we are in.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Christ James and this is my LAST TIME to post this.

After the Jan transfer window Villa showed a marked improvement. Remember you said we were delusional and away with the fairies to think we can get promoted? Maybe that will help you realise that we improved with DS’s transfers and DS’s coaching.

Now, this doesn’t take too much lateral thinking. We have just gone through a transfer and the same person, DS has brought in new players. And DS now has some time with these players. So based on our previous experience and the evidence of the results, DS should get this bunch of player to improve.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

In time you will understand. Maybe reflect on your views of promotion and Jack and think to yourself, maybe just maybe you may have it wrong again.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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No James, you are mis reading that completely.

I am telling you that I believe the team will improve with DS’s coaching and new players. You are telling me that my views are based on blind faith. My view is not based on blind faith they are based on my previous experiences of watching DS as our manager and what he has done in the past. You may not agree with the validity of what I am basing my views on which is fair enough but they are clearly not based on blind faith as I am providing the evidence I am basing my view on. If you continue to try and suggest that I am basing my views on blind faith I will continue to defend my position.

Yes ‘in time you will understand’. You clearly do not see that I am providing my opinion and the evidence I am using to support my opinion. In time, you will understand that this is not blind faith.

As an aside, you really let yourself down when you clearly try and twist and change history. To say nobody expected us to go up is laughable.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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but you cant compare championship and prem…
1. I am not comparing the Chumps to the PL
2. I am basing what I am saying on improvement, I believe that DS can improve the players even though we are in the PL. He may not be able to improve them enough but I still believe he can improve them
3. This is completely irrelevant to what we are discussing. We are discussing my opinion been based on blind faith. Whether it is PL or Chumps or whether it works or not does not make any difference. I am still basing my opinion on a source of evidence which is not blind faith no matter what way you try and say it.

If you cannot understand the English language and if you cannot understand that I am not basing my opinion on blind faith then you should get used to be spoken down to. I am not accepting you continuously stating I am basing my opinion on blind faith when I have proven that I am not.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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James

You are really struggling with some basic understanding of English James.

I am basing my views on evidence, that it not blind faith. You need to accept that. If you still have issues with that I suggest a dictionary.

These are my opinions based on my thinking and my interpretation of the evidence. Yes my powers critical thinking and analysis may be flawed and my use of evidence may be flawed but I have still based my opinion on evidence. This is NOT blind faith. If you understood this you would realise that I am not saying it is definite and nor am I saying I am 100% sure of it. It is an opinion of what will happen, it is not a prediction of the future. But the key point which I am defending is that my opinion is based on evidence and as such is NOT blind faith.

I agree my opinions may be no better than anyone else’s opinions but I am at least explaining the logic (flawed as it may prove to me) of how I formulated my opinion. All you are doing is ranting and saying it is based on blind faith, which clearly it is not

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

It doesn’t really matter what my evidence is, maybe my evidence is poor but I believe that Smith improved for example Taylor over the course of last season. The point is I provided what I believe to be evidence to support my opinion. Yes my evidence may be flawed but it is not blind faith, it would be just poor critical thinking skills on my part if that turns out to be the case.
You seem to be changing the discussion now to discuss the veracity of my evidence, do I take it you now agree that my opinion is not based on blind faith and rather you believe it is based on weak evidence?

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

James
Can individual players and the teams as a whole, improve through coaching and training?
I think you will agree that can

So how is it blind faith given we improved under Smith last season that players and the team cannot do so further this season under his guidance.

From what i have read this is what Begley is saying his opinion is based on

Your countering this by saying just because you believe something does not make it fact

But the facts are we did improve and as a result of it we reached the PL maybe you believe it happened by luck.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Unbelievable

I suspect your view is Liverpool got lucky winning the Champions League and it only happened because there tactics and results improved and the same in regards Man City winning the league

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Who mentioned play off’s ? i asked a simple question

if it was possible for players and the team to improve through coaching and training

you declined to answer and responded with results improved and the tactics employed improved

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Bruce couldn’t improve his erection ???? can’t believe your back to Bruce

I was not aware he even took coaching he didn’t do tactics as i recall, roll ya sleeves up sort of bloke i thought that was down to Collin Caulderwood

Anyway back to the facts – some of us believe the players improved through coaching and training sessions last season under Smith and think that it could happen further this year

but you think that’s blind faith because the players never actually improved it was just the tactics employed which brought about the results ?

But if i concede and say yes Bruce improved us you will give Smith some credit for his accomplishments.

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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just checking the site is ok,im having one or two probs.?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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i was,then it said one new comment below and i coudnt open it.
thats about 4 times now.

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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now thats just worked a treat.??

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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It’s always you ???

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

im a bloody jinx mate,
??????
but it seems ok now.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

Sorry mate but it not rocket science players do improve via coaching and training and it don’t stop once your at pro level
There are clubs all around the country who rely on coaching to improve players because they simply cannot afford to buy developed players for financial reasons and they do improve and move forward.

This is our business model now and if it’s not gonna happen for us this way then we might as well throw towel in now and look forward to the Championship because Smith was hired on that basis his ability to improve players through coaching

The days of buying the finished article are over for now and the focus is too improve individually and collectively via coaching and training and increase players value.

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

hi lads,
bloody hell,Begley and James are becoming the Ray and Mon on here.
???????
methinks you will just have to agree to disagree.????.
to be fair,there are some good points in both sides of the debate.
re Deano and the players,only time will tell.
id say at this moment in time,half the players are doing well,and the other half are hit or miss.

some or the others we havent seen yet apart from pre season.
so there is a lot to judge in the coming games.

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Begley
1 year ago
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James

You are continuously stating that my opinions are based on blind faith. Do you not think that is talking down to someone? No matter how many times I explain to you that I am basing my opinion you just ignore or don’t understand what I am saying and keep spouting the same nonsense

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

James, telling me my opinions are blind faith is talking down to me. You clearly do not understand the subject matter you are trying to debate and it is just silly trying to help you understand as you simply don’t have either the ability to understand it or you can’t accept that you may have an opportunity to learn. Everyday and in every interaction I have with people I try to learn from them and develop my own skills. It really does help but one must acknowledge to oneself that other people may know something that you don’t or may have some experience that you don’t. You should try it sometime.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

James, you seem like a bright enough lad, educate yourself more and a whole new world will open to you. Your refusal and inability to listen, absorb, reflect and learn is surely holding you back in life. Take the chip off your shoulder and have the self confidence that you can improve yourself and you may be very surprised with the outcome.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

There is no doubt that we both want to stay in this league

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

Just thinking about the cricket. Are B&Q not missing a trick here by not have an ad with Smith coming in and asking where the sandpaper is?

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Is there an issue with the blog? I received an email copy of your response and it is not the same as this response, it was the one about patronising you.
For the record, it is not patronising, it is simply telling you the truth. Like it or not you misuse and or misinterpret the meaning of some words and it gets u into all sorts of trouble when u try to debate your point. Spend some time reading about the topics I suggested to you. It will without doubt improve your ability to debate, succeed at work and in life. Treat knowledge as power and and improve your knowledge in areas that you are weak. We all need to do this and that his how we improve. You have often said you don’t have a degree and you speak down about people with degrees and say you have learned in the real world. Yet you say you are saving money for your son’d education. Why? Because you do understand the value of an education. People are never too old to learn.
I left school and went straight to University, I dropped out after 2 years and got a job. Aged 25, I went back to University and did a degree at night. At 32, I went back to University at night and did a masters. At 44 I went back to University (at night) and did another 4 year masters. I am not a silver spoon kid that was pampered through University or Daddy got me a job. I have a three degrees I did in my spare time while working and fully paid for it myself. I am a VP in a major multinational and have worked my way to my job myself, no leg up, no friends of Daddy and no connections. Like you, I have always have faith in my own ability but unlike you, I have always understood how important education was to my career. Try it sometime, I promise you that you will be surprised at what you are actually capable of achieving with the right attitude

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1 year ago
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Uncle Albert scored for Forrest

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1 year ago
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Ah, here is the email so no issue with the blog, reply is above

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1 year ago
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You make no sense read my articles how are they negative ? Would you prefer if i ruled with an iron fist – are you proposing I ban people for voicing an opinion that differs to my own ? my rules are laid out clearly go read them – maybe elaborate explain what your issue is – if you don’t want to do it publicly then use the form on site to do it instead of talking in riddles.

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If I believe the earth is flat then I am basing my belief on incorrect evidence. I am not just believing in something for the sake of it, I am believing in something because of my experience of a similar process with the same person last season. You may not want to accept that this is evidence but it is. As I have said many times, I evidence may be flawed but the bottom line is that I have evidence. This is the nuance that you are failing to grasp and this this pertinent factor which conclusively proves I am not basing my opinion on blind faith. This proof is not an opinion, it is a fact. My opinion is subjective and could be proven to be wrong in the future

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Again you are not understanding the words I am using. I have explained to you what my evidence is. To recap, it is the improvement the Villa team showed last year in the 2nd half of the season following some new additions and also some time on the training ground. Regardless of how much you want to debate the point, this is evidence.

I will agree that my evidence may be flawed, it may be weak and I may be interpreting it incorrectly. This doesn’t stop it being evidence thought, that would be more a reflection on my skills or lack of skills at gathering and assessing evidence. So if I am proven to be wrong it will be as a result of my weak evidence and inability to recognise this. This is completely different to blind faith which is what you are consistently saying I am basing my opinion on

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1 year ago
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Fcuk me i went to swap the fcukers out her dildo and the bastards are flat???

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1 year ago
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Well used batteries ??

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1 year ago
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???????????

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I think you are making progress here.

You are now questioning my evidence which is a completely valid critique of my opinion. I do not have specific details of the coaching methods, I have no metrics to show any specific improvement in players and nor can I confirm that the coaching has actually had an impact on the players.

What I do know is that after DS got new players in and spent time with them in coaching the results of the 1st team showed a marked improvement. Yes I am associating this improvement with coaching and the quality of the new players but that could be wrong. The reason I am making this association is that it is known that good coaching can improve a sports person’s playing ability. Further, DS has a reputation to be a good coach.

So I have some quantitative data and some qualitative data but the sources of each may be called into question. But, as I have to keep explaining to you, it is the evidence I am using to base my opinion on, thus not blind faith.

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1 year ago
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bloody hell did you see that clanger by butland.
stoke 2 down

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1 year ago
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http://www.dictionary.com is useful

Also maybe do some reading on critical thinking and Enquiry by Evidence. Very interesting topics and well worth understanding. Can be really helpful in all aspects of life. If you read about what you are talking about you will discover what you are saying is not quite accurate. Sometimes James you need to accept some people may understand some things better than you do. They the opportunity to learn as opposed to closing your eyes to greater understanding.

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James why does Begley or anyone else need to provide you with evidence ?

all our opinions are assumptions and expressions of our judgments or beliefs on something, and this is an opinion based blog, it works best when people give their opinion via a comment.

However It’s factual Bruce Failed in winning Villa promotion.?

It’s only an assumption of yours smith did not improve the players last season and wont this and pep is crap?

You can’t have it both ways
now i really must find some batteries

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But it don’t have to be it an opinion why does need to be proven

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1 year ago
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Pretty poor debating if you ask me my opinion ???

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1 year ago
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You are changing the question James. You are changing it to say if we need to stay up we need to be beating Bournemouth. That is not what we are discussing. We are discussing Villa’s level as a football team and what teams we should be beating. These are very different debates.

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1 year ago
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So if HS2 is cancelled will we have to give back our compo money ???

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1 year ago
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lol
i would deffo try to get more money to correct the mess the Gov has made to the existing land or at least buy it back on the cheap

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1 year ago
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I like your thinking. Compo for the mess and then more compo for fixing the mess.

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1 year ago

James
You tend to display gamma traits in your arguments eg four very successful years but I still get questioned, that does not happen. People get questioned when the decisions they make are falling short as DS is being questioned for not getting a return against Bournemouth because that was the expectation. Against Spurs we didnt (realistically) expect a result so praise was given for the effort put in and the “suggestions” were how we could improve on that performance.
If I were to suggest that although knowing nothing about your work that as an engineer I could out perform you I am sure you could give a thousand reasons why I am talking bolox, well I could also say that as you have never managed a championship or premiership team that it would apply to you. It would help if you gave your points as opinion and not from a faux experience.

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1 year ago

You say Smith is not a miracle worker. Last season he did a damn good impression of one.

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1 year ago

bloody hell did you see that clanger by butland.
stoke 2 down

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1 year ago

Pretty poor debating if you ask me my opinion ???

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1 year ago

re Deano,
i dont think that we can say one way or the other on how he turns out as a manager.
we can give our thoughts of course.but its just far to early to judge.
i can think of many managers that got teams into the top tear,and some in fact had a good first season.
only to collapse the next one.

many of them are now either in the lower leagues,or sitting on a panel.
in fact im finding it hard to think of one that has gone onto better things.

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perhaps moyes was the last one.

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just checking the site is ok,im having one or two probs.?

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1 year ago
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i was,then it said one new comment below and i coudnt open it.
thats about 4 times now.

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now thats just worked a treat.??

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It’s always you ???

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im a bloody jinx mate,
??????
but it seems ok now.

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1 year ago

hi lads,
whilst i agree with the jist of BBs leader post.
and am certainly happy to be back in the prem.
like all fans i have my own views.which in the past have been a right mixture of right wrong and sometimes way off the mark.

now we know Deano had a winning formula that got us promotion.but that was on the back of Jacks return to the team.
prior to that when he was injured,we had a terrible spell.
so my only worry is,that so far Deano has only one way of playing.
but now we are in the prem,he has got to be able to change tactics against certain teams.

and that is the big test of his management.
and for me,thats a fair assessment of him to date.

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I understand that concern with Jack however, we started our 10 game winning run on March 2nd following 3 draws and 2 losses in Feb. Didn’t we sign Mings and Hause in Jan, not sure what dat Hause joined but I do know Mings was on Jan 31st. Also we got Tuanzebe back from injury around that time and got Tommy E and Steer back from on loan. Could it be that DS getting a defence into Villa and giving them a little time (about a month) could have had a significant impact on our turn of fortunes as opposed to it being down to Jack?

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1 year ago
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I didn’t say it was our strong point. I am highlighting that our improvement in results occurred after we got a defence in place. During our 10 game run, which is 900 mins or 15 hours of football we conceded 5 goals. How do you rate that as a defensive performance?

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Derby 4-0
Blues 0-1
Forest 1-3
Boro 3-0
Blackburn 2-1
Wednesday 1-3
Rotherham 1-2
Bristol C 0-2
Bolton 0-2
Millwall 1-0

It wasn’t 6 goals conceded, it wasn’t even 5 goals, we only conceded 4 goals. Which score do you think is wrong? Also, not too many shoddy teams there either. We also won 6 games to nil and had 6 clean sheets which doesn’t look too shaky and we didn’t concede more than 1 goal in any single game. It does look like the narrative is ignoring the facts.

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Afternoon folks

Were here and across the boards to give our opinions on the club, manager, players, tactics, formations, this creates the debates we all love and hate. And just to be perfectly clear, just because i am firmly in favor of Dean Smith, he is not beyond critique.

My call for patience is because i believe in Dean Smith I am sold on the idea of Villa playing a modern brand of progressive attacking football under him. And you don’t just flick a light switch.

We all have our preferred choices and i admit they’re have been a few down the line i have given no time. because i thought they were not the right fit. but also invested too much time in others.

But getting back to Dean Smith, on the back of what he’s achieved for our club in a short amount of time, I would like to think even his doubters would cut him some slack.

But what i struggle to understand is why any true villa fan would be discontent right now. Perhaps they don’t appreciate what’s been achieved so far or grasp the size of job in hand

Perhaps that’s the reason, for some of the reactions to our recent defeats. maybe some fans look at the lower Premier league clubs like they looked at the likes of Bolton and others in the championship.

Were not an established premier league club anymore, and if we dropped down into the championship at the end of the season, I guarantee fans would expect us to win it the following year just like before.

So it’s down to Perceptions and expectations above all else, and it’s these that have to be managed this season.
It’s going to be incredibly difficult just to survive and the quicker we all accept this as a fan base the better.

We have a habit of doing the merry go round, perhaps we should stay on and not jump off so quick this time around, You never know we might actually achieve some long term success.

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All this discussion is far better what could have been a day discussion our 1-0 loss away to Luton last night and how that impacts our promotion prospects this season ?

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I never knew a lot about DS but what he did in a short amount of time was miraculous, on the other hand I hated Bruce’s appointment from day 1 lol

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I didn’t know much about DS other than when Villa played Brentford I generally got to see some nice football and it normally went Brentford’s way

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1 year ago
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About it mate

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And I only discovered that he was a Villa fan after a period of time

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The reason SB appointment was warmly met by majority of fans was out of pure desperation, I was not one of them, But we had suffered an horrendous period before we finally got relegated from the PL, Then up popped up Dr No, with all his promises and after he ruthlessly dismissed RDM your thinking this guy ain’t messing around, and then he employs Bruce, the promotion specialist so it was kind of understandable why the fan base believed he was the guy.

I think the majority of Fans pretty much new it was gonna be dire footy but his shortcomings and management style were quickly ignored because fans were desperate for promotion.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing – plenty had been written about his time at his former clubs but fell on deaf ears.

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Another thing that turned up and caught me off guard is the amount of unforced individual errors that lead to goals. Two against Bournemouth alone. Also the unlucky goals. Two big deflections off Mings in two games, one against Spurs and one against Bournemouth. I am not looking for luck in a game but I would like not to be unlucky. Hopefully it balances out over the course of the season.

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1 year ago
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So if HS2 is cancelled will we have to give back our compo money ???

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lol
i would deffo try to get more money to correct the mess the Gov has made to the existing land or at least buy it back on the cheap

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I like your thinking. Compo for the mess and then more compo for fixing the mess.

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1 year ago
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So it wasn’t bad luck the ball deflecting off Mings? Do you think NDombele aimed for Mings or was he going directly for goal?
After Jack getting caught with the ball outside the box (poor play) I am guessing that we weren’t unlucky with the bit of pinball in the box before the ball landed nicely for Kane

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That was skill. Luiz lined up the shot and put it in the top corner. It didn’t take any ricochets on the way to Luiz and nor did it take any deflections on the way to goal and nor did the GK make an error. Come on James, surely you can see the difference between the goals

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1 year ago
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LOL okay, Luiz got lucky with the goal, he never intended to score when he kicked the ball.

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1 year ago
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Of course Kane intended the goal. Did u actually read my comment or see the goal?
with the bit of pinball in the box before the ball landed nicely for Kane

What do you think I intended by the text in italics?
a) that Kane didn’t mean his goal or b) that Kane was lucky the way the ball landed nicely for him?

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Okay, at least we have got away from you claiming I said Kane’s goal was pure luck. We are getting there.

I said that two of Spurs goals had luck associated with them. One took a deflection and the other had some pinball. Yes they were all over us but we were defending well. I think over the course of the game Spurs deserved to win but I am assessing the goals on their merits. For some reason you won’t admit to these things.

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1 year ago
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“we made you fuck up”

So what did Bournemouth do to make Heaton fcuk up after 45 seconds and how did they get Luiz to step over the ball LOL

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That argument might hold some weight at the end of the season but so far it played 1 won 1 away
Your saying this purely on there results last season and ignoring improvements are possible.

As for lack of fire power not sure i see the point your trying to make – different league different level of defenders Kodjia never scored until the 4th and 5th game of last season Tammy never scored til 10th game

but using same period last year first 2 games Elphick Emo Hutton on opening day
and Chester and Bjarnasson the game after

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1 year ago
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With our lack of firepower only 9 teams in the Premier League have scored more goals than we have scored. If you offered me that stat next May I would bite you arm off

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I agree re Wes, I have said the same for a long time. But we have 10 outfield players. But from looking at our formation and the players we have bought I do not believe DS is expecting Wes to be a top scorer. I would say he will be targeted with getting 10+ goals over the course of the season. And as you say he “looks more of a creator”, that works for me if he is creating goals for others. As I said, only 9 teams in the PL have scored more goals than we have so based on the evidence of the two games (which it appear you are doing) I can’t see how you have determined we have a lack of firepower

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Having a Maupay sitting on the bench may be nice but it is very difficult to get a striker to be backup in a 4-1-4-1 setup. Also, we don’t know what our budget is, we may not have had the cash. DS is going into this season with Wes, Kodjia and Davis and obviously feels that is enough and he feels that money was better spent in other aspects of the team.
People were convinced DS fcuked up last year with our promotion push and were proven wrong. Maybe DS knows a little more about football and our players ability that we do.

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1 year ago
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I believe our promotion push a result of DS’s Jan signings, players returning from injury and hard work on the training ground. I believe that we would not have got promotion without DS so I credit him with getting us promoted. Do you not?

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I am not dressing it up, I am just not dressing it down. Does the form team not usually win the playoffs? Fulham last season?

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1 year ago
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Ah, so it is one of those unrelated coincidences that the form team for the last couple of years has continued with their good form and won the playoffs.

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This is the first i’ve heard that claims were made that Bournemouth are a good away side and we should not expect to win

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1 year ago
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I am responding to you saying Bournemouth are a poor away side, evidently not having played 1 won 1 – you obviously said this purely on last season which has no relevance to this season because everyone can improve which is why i said it may hold more weight at the end of the season but not exactly valid now.

I can’t judge them after one away game

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so you cant improve through training? it has to come from additions that’s a Bruce philosophy

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1 year ago
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I am defending this loss on the performance overall and the way the game panned out, a GK error and a deflected shot

If can’t expect to beat sides like Bournemouth who should we expect to gain points from home to?

you don’t always get what you deserve from a footy game james and sometimes you get more than you deserve, hence why i have mentioned many fans see everything in black and white like we should beat them etc

crikey James your glass is not even half full your on dregs buddy

And wtf you bringing Bruce into a debate for to try and make out like it’s double standards on my part
Scrapping the barrel now – i am saying it how i see it – and fcuk bruce he had 3 seasons

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I have said already to day i have not given certain managers in the past time and given others to much time, surely you can work out which CAT Bruce fell into

For starters Bruce never won us promotion in 8 months did he, and his football was dire

But i think Begley nailed it when he replied to you with what we had to endure in regards Bruce setting up the team, players out of position etc and he couldn’t even get that right after 2+ seasons and adding 22 players

And just because we lost to Bournemouth doesn’t mean we will now lose to other teams of similar ilk and neither does it mean we will win either, we can only judge each game on it’s merit.

I obviously seen the game differently to yourself which is fine, we all have our views but for me i have seen an over reaction across the boards from the fan base.

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Smith being Manager is neither here or there

we are newly promoted team and had a big influx of players common sense says at very least were gonna need time to adjust regardless of opposition.

I don’ buy well Sheff and Norwich don’t need time
because Norwich squad have been together almost 2 seasons and Sheff similar and again it short term looking at 2 games

But Back to Smith – given he got things right last season – then why should i not believe he won’t this season?, It’s not blind faith because he’s already delivered once.

He’s earned my respect and the the right to be given time and i am not gonna throw a hissy fit over a few early losses especially in the manor they have occurred and with a team still adjusting to each other.

spurs away no one really expected us to get anything .

Bournemouth a costly error by Heaton – who knows how that game pans out if he clears that ball

Errors will happen and i suspect were working hard to eradicate them but no way is it a bench mark to how our future home games against our min league opponent will end

Nothing is given we will have to perform to survive and that just means being better than 3 other teams

Things could be a lot worse we could still be playing 3 times a week in that awful championship

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1 year ago
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James

Try the truth some time. You know exactly what my views on Bruce were.

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1 year ago
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Maybe truth is another one of those words you don’t quite understand the meaning of too

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1 year ago
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It depends on whether Bruce had either sold or loaned out our CBs during the transfer window or not and whether we were playing RBs and Jedi in a back 4 and leaving our on LB out of the team.
If Bruce played a RB, 2 CBs and a LB my view may be different.

Its not all about the result it is about how the team is setup and what the team is trying to do

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A poor away side who have been in the PL for the last 4 years, where we are a team that finished 5th and 18 points behind the top of the Championship winners last season. Does that put us on a par with Bournemouth or in a position that we should be beating them?

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No, if you didn’t take soundbites of comments u would see that. I have consistently stated that DS and the team need time to gel and work together on the training ground and that we will get better with time.

But rather than deflect and try and say my logic is flawed, do you think that we should be on a par / ahead of Bournemouth and should be beating them?

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1 year ago
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“will get better” that is an assumption based on faith not an assessment based on anything specific is it really

Incorrect.
It is a logical position based on past performance of DS with bringing new players into the team. He has only had one opportunity to do this before during his Villa career. After 4 or 5 weeks we showed a marked improvement and actually broke the club record for consecutive wins.

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1 year ago
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Why is it so hard to stick to the point of the discussion?

I am saying we will get better

You are saying that is blind faith

I am saying it is not blind faith it is based on the fact that DS improved our team the last time he had an opportunity of a transfer window at Villa

The point is his ability to improve a team. The ability to improve is irrelevant to the league we are in.

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1 year ago
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Christ James and this is my LAST TIME to post this.

After the Jan transfer window Villa showed a marked improvement. Remember you said we were delusional and away with the fairies to think we can get promoted? Maybe that will help you realise that we improved with DS’s transfers and DS’s coaching.

Now, this doesn’t take too much lateral thinking. We have just gone through a transfer and the same person, DS has brought in new players. And DS now has some time with these players. So based on our previous experience and the evidence of the results, DS should get this bunch of player to improve.

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1 year ago
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In time you will understand. Maybe reflect on your views of promotion and Jack and think to yourself, maybe just maybe you may have it wrong again.

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1 year ago
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No James, you are mis reading that completely.

I am telling you that I believe the team will improve with DS’s coaching and new players. You are telling me that my views are based on blind faith. My view is not based on blind faith they are based on my previous experiences of watching DS as our manager and what he has done in the past. You may not agree with the validity of what I am basing my views on which is fair enough but they are clearly not based on blind faith as I am providing the evidence I am basing my view on. If you continue to try and suggest that I am basing my views on blind faith I will continue to defend my position.

Yes ‘in time you will understand’. You clearly do not see that I am providing my opinion and the evidence I am using to support my opinion. In time, you will understand that this is not blind faith.

As an aside, you really let yourself down when you clearly try and twist and change history. To say nobody expected us to go up is laughable.

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1 year ago
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but you cant compare championship and prem…
1. I am not comparing the Chumps to the PL
2. I am basing what I am saying on improvement, I believe that DS can improve the players even though we are in the PL. He may not be able to improve them enough but I still believe he can improve them
3. This is completely irrelevant to what we are discussing. We are discussing my opinion been based on blind faith. Whether it is PL or Chumps or whether it works or not does not make any difference. I am still basing my opinion on a source of evidence which is not blind faith no matter what way you try and say it.

If you cannot understand the English language and if you cannot understand that I am not basing my opinion on blind faith then you should get used to be spoken down to. I am not accepting you continuously stating I am basing my opinion on blind faith when I have proven that I am not.

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1 year ago
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James

You are really struggling with some basic understanding of English James.

I am basing my views on evidence, that it not blind faith. You need to accept that. If you still have issues with that I suggest a dictionary.

These are my opinions based on my thinking and my interpretation of the evidence. Yes my powers critical thinking and analysis may be flawed and my use of evidence may be flawed but I have still based my opinion on evidence. This is NOT blind faith. If you understood this you would realise that I am not saying it is definite and nor am I saying I am 100% sure of it. It is an opinion of what will happen, it is not a prediction of the future. But the key point which I am defending is that my opinion is based on evidence and as such is NOT blind faith.

I agree my opinions may be no better than anyone else’s opinions but I am at least explaining the logic (flawed as it may prove to me) of how I formulated my opinion. All you are doing is ranting and saying it is based on blind faith, which clearly it is not

Begley
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1 year ago
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It doesn’t really matter what my evidence is, maybe my evidence is poor but I believe that Smith improved for example Taylor over the course of last season. The point is I provided what I believe to be evidence to support my opinion. Yes my evidence may be flawed but it is not blind faith, it would be just poor critical thinking skills on my part if that turns out to be the case.
You seem to be changing the discussion now to discuss the veracity of my evidence, do I take it you now agree that my opinion is not based on blind faith and rather you believe it is based on weak evidence?

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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James
Can individual players and the teams as a whole, improve through coaching and training?
I think you will agree that can

So how is it blind faith given we improved under Smith last season that players and the team cannot do so further this season under his guidance.

From what i have read this is what Begley is saying his opinion is based on

Your countering this by saying just because you believe something does not make it fact

But the facts are we did improve and as a result of it we reached the PL maybe you believe it happened by luck.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Unbelievable

I suspect your view is Liverpool got lucky winning the Champions League and it only happened because there tactics and results improved and the same in regards Man City winning the league

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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i cant get the reply link to work.
is anybody else having probs with it.?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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yes mate,ive just gone straight on to your reply this time.??

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Who mentioned play off’s ? i asked a simple question

if it was possible for players and the team to improve through coaching and training

you declined to answer and responded with results improved and the tactics employed improved

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Bruce couldn’t improve his erection ???? can’t believe your back to Bruce

I was not aware he even took coaching he didn’t do tactics as i recall, roll ya sleeves up sort of bloke i thought that was down to Collin Caulderwood

Anyway back to the facts – some of us believe the players improved through coaching and training sessions last season under Smith and think that it could happen further this year

but you think that’s blind faith because the players never actually improved it was just the tactics employed which brought about the results ?

But if i concede and say yes Bruce improved us you will give Smith some credit for his accomplishments.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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Sorry mate but it not rocket science players do improve via coaching and training and it don’t stop once your at pro level
There are clubs all around the country who rely on coaching to improve players because they simply cannot afford to buy developed players for financial reasons and they do improve and move forward.

This is our business model now and if it’s not gonna happen for us this way then we might as well throw towel in now and look forward to the Championship because Smith was hired on that basis his ability to improve players through coaching

The days of buying the finished article are over for now and the focus is too improve individually and collectively via coaching and training and increase players value.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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My keyboard is dying i’m having to switch it on/off for it to respond, and i have no spare batteries so unless I can lay my hands on an old wired one you will all get a break from me.

be good won’t ya?

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1 year ago
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Put the batteries on a heater for a half an hour and they will get some charge which should be enough for a keyboard.
Note: Extreme risk of fire if you heat them too much. Warm and not hot and only for 30 mins. Do not do a BB and put them in the oven for 30 mins ?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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i was told once,drop them on the floor.
dont know if it works though

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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hi lads,
bloody hell,Begley and James are becoming the Ray and Mon on here.
???????
methinks you will just have to agree to disagree.????.
to be fair,there are some good points in both sides of the debate.
re Deano and the players,only time will tell.
id say at this moment in time,half the players are doing well,and the other half are hit or miss.

some or the others we havent seen yet apart from pre season.
so there is a lot to judge in the coming games.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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James

You are continuously stating that my opinions are based on blind faith. Do you not think that is talking down to someone? No matter how many times I explain to you that I am basing my opinion you just ignore or don’t understand what I am saying and keep spouting the same nonsense

Begley
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1 year ago
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James, telling me my opinions are blind faith is talking down to me. You clearly do not understand the subject matter you are trying to debate and it is just silly trying to help you understand as you simply don’t have either the ability to understand it or you can’t accept that you may have an opportunity to learn. Everyday and in every interaction I have with people I try to learn from them and develop my own skills. It really does help but one must acknowledge to oneself that other people may know something that you don’t or may have some experience that you don’t. You should try it sometime.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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James, you seem like a bright enough lad, educate yourself more and a whole new world will open to you. Your refusal and inability to listen, absorb, reflect and learn is surely holding you back in life. Take the chip off your shoulder and have the self confidence that you can improve yourself and you may be very surprised with the outcome.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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There is no doubt that we both want to stay in this league

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

Is there an issue with the blog? I received an email copy of your response and it is not the same as this response, it was the one about patronising you.
For the record, it is not patronising, it is simply telling you the truth. Like it or not you misuse and or misinterpret the meaning of some words and it gets u into all sorts of trouble when u try to debate your point. Spend some time reading about the topics I suggested to you. It will without doubt improve your ability to debate, succeed at work and in life. Treat knowledge as power and and improve your knowledge in areas that you are weak. We all need to do this and that his how we improve. You have often said you don’t have a degree and you speak down about people with degrees and say you have learned in the real world. Yet you say you are saving money for your son’d education. Why? Because you do understand the value of an education. People are never too old to learn.
I left school and went straight to University, I dropped out after 2 years and got a job. Aged 25, I went back to University and did a degree at night. At 32, I went back to University at night and did a masters. At 44 I went back to University (at night) and did another 4 year masters. I am not a silver spoon kid that was pampered through University or Daddy got me a job. I have a three degrees I did in my spare time while working and fully paid for it myself. I am a VP in a major multinational and have worked my way to my job myself, no leg up, no friends of Daddy and no connections. Like you, I have always have faith in my own ability but unlike you, I have always understood how important education was to my career. Try it sometime, I promise you that you will be surprised at what you are actually capable of achieving with the right attitude

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Uncle Albert scored for Forrest

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Just thinking about the cricket. Are B&Q not missing a trick here by not have an ad with Smith coming in and asking where the sandpaper is?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Ah, here is the email so no issue with the blog, reply is above

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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You make no sense read my articles how are they negative ? Would you prefer if i ruled with an iron fist – are you proposing I ban people for voicing an opinion that differs to my own ? my rules are laid out clearly go read them – maybe elaborate explain what your issue is – if you don’t want to do it publicly then use the form on site to do it instead of talking in riddles.

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1 year ago
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If I believe the earth is flat then I am basing my belief on incorrect evidence. I am not just believing in something for the sake of it, I am believing in something because of my experience of a similar process with the same person last season. You may not want to accept that this is evidence but it is. As I have said many times, I evidence may be flawed but the bottom line is that I have evidence. This is the nuance that you are failing to grasp and this this pertinent factor which conclusively proves I am not basing my opinion on blind faith. This proof is not an opinion, it is a fact. My opinion is subjective and could be proven to be wrong in the future

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1 year ago
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Again you are not understanding the words I am using. I have explained to you what my evidence is. To recap, it is the improvement the Villa team showed last year in the 2nd half of the season following some new additions and also some time on the training ground. Regardless of how much you want to debate the point, this is evidence.

I will agree that my evidence may be flawed, it may be weak and I may be interpreting it incorrectly. This doesn’t stop it being evidence thought, that would be more a reflection on my skills or lack of skills at gathering and assessing evidence. So if I am proven to be wrong it will be as a result of my weak evidence and inability to recognise this. This is completely different to blind faith which is what you are consistently saying I am basing my opinion on

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

Fcuk me i went to swap the fcukers out her dildo and the bastards are flat???

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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Well used batteries ??

jcv
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1 year ago
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???????????

Begley
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1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

I think you are making progress here.

You are now questioning my evidence which is a completely valid critique of my opinion. I do not have specific details of the coaching methods, I have no metrics to show any specific improvement in players and nor can I confirm that the coaching has actually had an impact on the players.

What I do know is that after DS got new players in and spent time with them in coaching the results of the 1st team showed a marked improvement. Yes I am associating this improvement with coaching and the quality of the new players but that could be wrong. The reason I am making this association is that it is known that good coaching can improve a sports person’s playing ability. Further, DS has a reputation to be a good coach.

So I have some quantitative data and some qualitative data but the sources of each may be called into question. But, as I have to keep explaining to you, it is the evidence I am using to base my opinion on, thus not blind faith.

Begley
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1 year ago
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http://www.dictionary.com is useful

Also maybe do some reading on critical thinking and Enquiry by Evidence. Very interesting topics and well worth understanding. Can be really helpful in all aspects of life. If you read about what you are talking about you will discover what you are saying is not quite accurate. Sometimes James you need to accept some people may understand some things better than you do. They the opportunity to learn as opposed to closing your eyes to greater understanding.

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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James why does Begley or anyone else need to provide you with evidence ?

all our opinions are assumptions and expressions of our judgments or beliefs on something, and this is an opinion based blog, it works best when people give their opinion via a comment.

However It’s factual Bruce Failed in winning Villa promotion.?

It’s only an assumption of yours smith did not improve the players last season and wont this and pep is crap?

You can’t have it both ways
now i really must find some batteries

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago
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But it don’t have to be it an opinion why does need to be proven

Begley
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1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

You are changing the question James. You are changing it to say if we need to stay up we need to be beating Bournemouth. That is not what we are discussing. We are discussing Villa’s level as a football team and what teams we should be beating. These are very different debates.

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1 year ago
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James
You tend to display gamma traits in your arguments eg four very successful years but I still get questioned, that does not happen. People get questioned when the decisions they make are falling short as DS is being questioned for not getting a return against Bournemouth because that was the expectation. Against Spurs we didnt (realistically) expect a result so praise was given for the effort put in and the “suggestions” were how we could improve on that performance.
If I were to suggest that although knowing nothing about your work that as an engineer I could out perform you I am sure you could give a thousand reasons why I am talking bolox, well I could also say that as you have never managed a championship or premiership team that it would apply to you. It would help if you gave your points as opinion and not from a faux experience.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago

I think James was definitely raising unfair questions about DS, very much in the hypothetical but questioning him as manager yet leaving room for him to be successful. None of us know if he will be a success or not, what I am looking for is people to support DS until we know the answer to that question. However, James has now said not to talk about sacking Smith for (I think) the first 10 games.

Across the board there is a cohort laying the ground work for Sack Smith before giving him a chance

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

Where did I say unfair?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
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This multi tasking is not good for me ??

In questioning if DS is right for the job. Questioning his experience at this level.

Imo, the guy has earned the right for some time and slack from fans, particularly those who are writing editorial blogs

Begley
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1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

I am not sure what point u are making by saying neither he nor NSWE have experience at this level. You have mentioned that CP has experience at a higher level in the PL but not at the lower end of the PL. But what experience have the likes of Pep / Klopp or The Abu Dhabu Group or Fenway Group? None of these have any experience. What experience had Wolves owners / Nuno? You are highlighting it as a concern but it is not clear what your concern actually is.

There is nothing wrong with questioning things, it is a sensible thing to do. The point I am making is that the tone of the questioning is negative towards Smith & NSWE with the implication that they do not have the necessary experience to be successful at what they are trying to do. Also, we need to reflect on what NSWE and DS have already delivered. NSWE had no experience of the Championship. DS had no experience at the top end of the Chumps yet they both managed to gain promotion for Villa. Furthermore, this promotion was gained when so many people believed that it was delusional to even consider promotion. As DS and NSWE have proven many fans to be complete wrong. do you not think that these fans should maybe realise that DS and NSWE know their jobs better than fans do and that they should be given the benefit of the doubt with their decision making?

Begley
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1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

How is it not a good comparison. Your claim is that NSWE and CP and Smith did not have experience at the lower end of the PL table, Pep did not have any experience at the top end and nor did Klopp. Nobody has ever said that DS has experience in the PL and everyone has said that he will be learning. I even stated that as an extra reason why we need to give him time as he needs to find his feet in the PL too.

I am exceptionally accurate in what I am saying, the posts are all there. You specifically called out CP as not having experience at the lower end of the PL.

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

You say Liverpool could be midtable and City top 6 without managers so how did the owners and managers without experience manage to finish 1st and 2nd?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago

bloody hell did you see that clanger by butland.
stoke 2 down

AVFCVillablog
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1 year ago

My keyboard is dying i’m having to switch it on/off for it to respond, and i have no spare batteries so unless I can lay my hands on an old wired one you will all get a break from me.

be good won’t ya?

Begley
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Begley
1 year ago
Reply to  AVFCVillablog

Put the batteries on a heater for a half an hour and they will get some charge which should be enough for a keyboard.
Note: Extreme risk of fire if you heat them too much. Warm and not hot and only for 30 mins. Do not do a BB and put them in the oven for 30 mins ?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
Reply to  Begley

i was told once,drop them on the floor.
dont know if it works though

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago

i cant get the reply link to work.
is anybody else having probs with it.?

jcv
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jcv
1 year ago
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yes mate,ive just gone straight on to your reply this time.??

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