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The Hammers-Fans Early Indications And My U-Turn

The last time we played the hammers. I predicted a win would see us get out the bottom three, and felt that we needed to get something because we had Arsenal up next. This time around It also feels like we need to get something from the hammers. I don’t want to rely on Everton. Back then I wrote that I sensed the prophets of doom were already starting to surface and put a negative spin on things. Smith had barely got started on laying the foundations for the season ahead. We were five games into the season it was September. But It was clear from some fans with their doom and gloom analogies, Dean Smith was not going to, be shown the same patience that got shown, Steve Bruce.

I said I believed we would come out the other side of this transitional season a better team. But we needed to give time and accept instant success does not exist. And that we would incur losses along the way. Even be in or around the relegation zone most, if not all the season. And that finishing midtable would be fantastic, but equally so would 17th place this season.

My support for Smith as been clear for all to see, and I made no apologies for being willing to get behind him through an extended period. I believed Smith needed this season, and I suspected the owners thought so too. Especially given the rhetoric that came from Christian Purslow. “nothing happens overnight Dean Smith was the outstanding candidate, every single attribute that the owners and I had talked about, Dean had In abundance”. You can read some of that here https://avfcvillablog.com/west-ham-smith-to-burst-the-hammers-bubble/

My U-Turn

Up until the recent Chelsea defeat following project restart, I had never given Dean Smith both barrels. Then last week, I lost the plot, and the very thing which I said was needed patience, I ran out of. I wrote that some of the board and Smith needed replacing. Not for anyone like big sam, but someone like Pochettino or Rafa.

I regret writing that now, It was an emotional knee jerk reaction to a result. I should have allowed myself time to digest the Everton game. So I am doing a u-turn. I want us to retain Dean Smith services regardless if were relegated or not. It may be an even more unpopular view come Sunday afternoon than now. But it’s mine to make, and mine to have, you still get to have yours. Because all opinions are right, That’s what makes it an opinion. It’s yours to have, yours to make, and you get to be right. so let’s not make the common mistake and confuse opinions with facts which so many do.

Why do I want to keep Smith? Well for the very reasons I spoke about back in 2018, and above. That, I believe we need to take the longevity approach. No more gambles or quick fix scenario’s.

The question I ask is this “would those of us who want a coach like Pochettino or Rafa, or someone of that ilk. Also want them removed right now if we were in the same position under them?”. Would we keep them purely because of their cv regardless?. If so, then is it not simply a case we don’t believe Smith can learn and grow like Sean Dyche did at Burnley?. Lets remember this is his first year as a Premier League Coach.

There Is No Fast-Track Route

Klopp just won the title after building Liverpool up over a few years. Pool fans wanted him out not so long ago. Gooner fans bemoaned about Wenger they don’t make top 4 nowadays. Sometimes the grass is not always greener. We all want Villa to be challenging for honours and winning trophies. But is there a fast-track route?. We do have a history of jumping on the Manager merry go round at Villa.

Whatever happens at the hammers Smith’s on a hiding to nothing. If we lose and end up relegated, fans already have their scapegoat. If we stay up, some fans will insist that Smith needs to go, on the basis they believe given the money spent we should never have been in this position.

Adapting To The Premier League

Spending money does not guarantee your survival. It’s not like we spent the money to improve an established premier league team. Hopefully, winning at the hammers will enable us to do that, for the first time in many a year.

For us, this season was always going to be about player integration, and relying on players adapting quickly. Everyone in the team learning and being aware of their role. If, we draw or beat the hammers and retain our Premier League status. Our Players will have a year’s experience behind them. We can then build on this, instead of tearing everything up and starting again. Like, what’s happened in recent years. Which, would also no doubt happen under a new coach.

Villa’s New Approach

Prior to Smith’s appointment, I said we needed a new approach. One which would see us hire a vibrant, progressive, tactically astute type of coach. Someone who can develop our youth and any young talent we purchase. I said they would need time to create a playing style that’s played across all levels of the club. So youth integration is much easier to accomplish than previous attempts. Build this footballing ethos that would become known as the Villa way. Then every coach that follows adds a sprinkling of there own.

I asked if the Aston Villa board had the longterm vision that was required to lift our great club back to where it belongs?. Or if we would just become another Leeds United?. We will find out soon enough.

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2 months ago
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Jimenez a great deal for me. At the time he joined he would have been gettable for us too. Most of the others were & are out of our league.

Got to admire Kane and dare I say it rat face Vardy (golden boot) two huge bargains with the right attitude.
Rodriguez & Ings also good around strikers that we could have had but for poor recruitment.

Wesley looks a deal amongst the newcomers, just hope he regains full fitness, its a nasty injury. Expect great things in the future from our Wes.

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Yes, i guess he wouldn’t have come to the championship. I do remember rumours of us buying Vardy for 9 mil the season we went down, I was dead against it ! ?
Wtf do I know ???

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Problem with Iheancho, Calverr-Lewin, Jesus is the record is somewhat skewed as like Davies they don’t start games.
Those stats are based on appearances but not necessarily full games or anywhere near in some cases.

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Never liked Zaha’s attitude tbh always whinning about something.
Chris Woods record is a lot better than I imagined.

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2 months ago

hi lads,
not doing sod all today,its bloody roasting out there.LOL

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i did the front yesterday evening and the sweat was rolling off me.
thought id leave the back until today.
no chance,im just chilling out with cold drinks LOL

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Here too 30 odd degrees yesterday.
Some welcome showers and cooler today.
Little tip
If you don’t fertilize your lawns you won’t have to cut the buggers ???

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2 months ago
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Yeah, will be not as greater need to sell on you would hope.
Joking apart seems like a good appointment.

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“Lange’s pitch to prospective new signings is straightforward but compelling.

They will go through a development process that will mean they get sold to a club in a top-five league. The idea is that they learn, they improve and then we sell them.
Johan Lange
“What they will gain here are three things,” he explains. “Firstly, they will win trophies. We can say that based on our history. That will be nice for them to look back on in their career.

“Secondly, they will play European football and get to test themselves at the next level. And the third thing is that they will go through a development process that will mean they get sold to a club in a top-five league. The idea is that they learn, they improve and then we sell them.”

It has become a virtuous cycle for the club because with every success story, the next batch of talented young players are even more inclined to choose Copenhagen.”

Oh dear thats recruitment advantages 1 & 2 out the window then ! ???

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I guess that means we won’t be signing Sturridge then ?

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Interesting read. Going to be difficult for him here, I don’t doubt, but the philosophy looks pretty sound to me. Be good to see our own youth players coming good at Villa Park.

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2 months ago
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Young, intelligent, knowledgeable, connected, what’s not to like ?

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????
Love it !
Claret & blue specs

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YAY
And an hour earlier than promised.

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2 months ago

if silbakken and lange were doing such a great job,how come we didnt employ both of them

on that note goodnight all.????

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2 months ago

sorry,
methinks we are going down the same road as last year,
more overseas up and coming nobodies,
and the same old from our league.

if we were serious we would have gone for the ex southampton SP who has done it in the prem not some tin pot league.

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Only got my phone and my big fingers can’t cope with keypad I got no tV as hub is down which makes it worse and i just had txt update, the engineer is on site and estimate is now 11.50 tonight Virgin can go whistle

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im on virgin mate,
their service department is crap.
but if you dial 0800 0521 920.
you are more likely to get a british connection,
rather than india.
an engineer told me that.?

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2 months ago
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You, a virgin ?
Pull the other one.

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2 months ago
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LOL

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Just pay the bill.
That usually works ???

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?????

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Yep bloody cheapskates,
Lambert equivalent in communications ???

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2 months ago

johan lang was assistant to Stale Solbakken at the wolves.
no,ive never heard of him either.lol

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He was promoted in 2014 by all accounts so been in a similar job for six years.
Must have some great connections.
We must have had this guy lined up for a while, maybe Suso was a bit of a stop gap ?

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great connections,
nobodies ever heard of him.
where do we get these people from.

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bloody hell the wolves were going nowhere under that management team.

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Sounds like one of the apostles in mission impossible?

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hi lads,
whats all this about signing for the ladies team.
lets get the mens one right first.

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Hmm. Seems to have done quite a lot of Manager Assisting !
Who was he assistant to at Wolves, I wonder ?

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He has been in a DOF or SD position for a good 6 years though, so anything negative is well in his past.
Proof is in the pudding but I wish him well.

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2 months ago

Progressive. I think that’s what they call it.

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was at the wolves in 2012.
what league was they in then

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Don’t know, but he was assistant the current FC Copenhagen manager, Staale Stolbakken. Seems to have followed him around a bit.

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2 months ago

So they didn’t hang about getting a new SP …
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/30/johan-lange-sporting-director

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2 months ago

Had to have had him lined up already ?

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The ladies team seem to be signing all internationals , wonder if the mens team will follow suit. ?

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I know I really shouldn’t be saying this, but does anyone else think we have decided to sign all the worlds fittest women players ? If you know what I mean by fittest 😉

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Well they do play two up front ???

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Might even get me interested ?

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lol
I do think its a good idea to develope a top women’s side though, shows some good business sense who knows where that league will go in this PC age ?
Seems like these onwers are investing in bodymoor heath, youth, women’s team, talk of VP development on the cards ?
I also read Nasiri is buying into a Portugese club, feeder club?
It seems night & day to Xia regime.

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Yep. I am quite genuinely enthused by it all.
Mind you, I was quite enthused by Tony Xai once upon a time ?

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lol, yep me too always optimistic

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Apparently we have signed some Danish international, never heard of him or the club we have got him off.

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Is that not a lady for ladies team,

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I don’t know just caught a quick glimpse on sky when I got in from work. She may look a star in the mens side compared to how some of them have performed this season.

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Wouldn’t be hard,

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Proper bad day my avatar as gone tits up disabled my gravatar but it as made no diifference and just when I thought things couldn’t get any worse virgin media as now had a outrage so my hub is offline till 8.30 at earliest what’s the odds of a 3rd gremlin

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Joys of modern world,jcv will get a laugh anyway

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Oh bad luck, what on earth did we do before wifi & the internet. I’m lost without it, don’t care so much about tv these days but if I’m off line ?

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Newcastle will be firm favourites for drop stuck with old cabbage head couldn’t happen to nicer fans

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2 months ago

So we get a new director off football,some Danish fella
According to some we should sign all these Brentford players ,we tried that with di Matteo and spud signing best players in championship,that worked great lainsbury 50 appearances in 3 and half years

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Have we ? Will have to catch up on news later

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